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I didn't expect that you'd be able to answer my question which, for completeness, I include again:

When, exactly, did we vote to join the EU?

What you should have admitted is:

We have never voted to join the EU


And who's bloody fault was that??? - that evil witch Thatcher (phth, phth, phth) and the scumbag 'nasty party!!!
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And who's bloody fault was that??? - that evil witch Thatcher (phth, phth, phth) and the scumbag 'nasty party!!!

You didn't read that article link I posted did

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Welcome to the 1975 European referendum - a mirror image of the one being fought today. Today the Conservative government is deeply divided over the big question. In 1975, it was the Labour government. Prime Minister Harold Wilson had come back from Brussels with what he claimed was a better deal for Britain (sound familiar?) and was leading the In campaign.

But Labour's left, led by Tony Benn (and including a then-unknown Jeremy Corbyn), hated the Common Market, seeing it as a "capitalist club" that would erode British democracy and destroy jobs.


Just in case you want to confirm that here it is again

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36367246
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(an extract from the article

The Conservatives - including their new leader Margaret Thatcher - were, almost to a man and woman, enthusiastic cheerleaders for staying in "Europe" on free trade grounds, after taking us into it two years earlier. Like now, big business backed Britain's membership - but so did the tabloid press, with The Sun famously declaring in an editorial "we are all Europeans now".
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16-09-2018, 08:55 AM
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Re: Gina Miller Claims She Will TAKE BACK CONTROL Of Brexit!

Originally Posted by Uncle Joe ->


(an extract from the article

The Conservatives - including their new leader Margaret Thatcher - were, almost to a man and woman, enthusiastic cheerleaders for staying in "Europe" on free trade grounds, after taking us into it two years earlier. Like now, big business backed Britain's membership - but so did the tabloid press, with The Sun famously declaring in an editorial "we are all Europeans now".
Correct Mrs Thatcher and company were for the EEC as it was then..not the EU as it is now
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16-09-2018, 09:03 AM
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As far as I can recall we were asked whether we wanted to join a European trading partnership, which was nothing akin to the all consuming political enterprise that the EU has become!
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16-09-2018, 09:08 AM
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Political and defence union was being discussed early on way before we joined. So it was always something that could be on the cards. The first line of the Treaty of Rome is "DETERMINED to lay the foundations of an ever-closer union among the peoples of Europe, "

So it seems people didn't know what they were voting for two years ago and in 1975.
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There was a separate defence treaty back in the 50s which the French rejected at the time.
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16-09-2018, 09:17 AM
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Re: Gina Miller Claims She Will TAKE BACK CONTROL Of Brexit!

Originally Posted by Barry ->
As far as I can recall we were asked whether we wanted to join a European trading partnership, which was nothing akin to the all consuming political enterprise that the EU has become!
Exactly which was a different kettle of fish altogether and that is the point that a lot seem loathe to accept
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16-09-2018, 09:44 AM
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Funny thing is that I have not seen any evidence of this
all consuming political enterprise that the EU has become
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Correct Mrs Thatcher and company were for the EEC as it was then..not the EU as it is now
And who was the stupid witch that signed us up to the Single European Act Treaty???
 
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