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24-04-2016, 11:11 AM
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Yellow/green to yellow/green
Brown to brown
Blue(blew) to bits.



Take care and it's easy.
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24-04-2016, 01:30 PM
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One of the problems i have about advising those online who lack experience of electrical work it is the chance that they can misunderstand. Electricity is dangerous and can and does kill,.


A while back on a thread a question was asked, and answered fairly well until a certain poster suggested something that was really stupid and dangerous, he claimed he had passed exams. If the poster concerned had meant as a joke the questioner had no way of knowing, potential disaster.

BTW way i dont know how many sockets you wish to change, there can be more than one circuit of sockets in a home make sure you check each one individually. I have no doubt you will do the changes ok. In my job i had to do inspection and testing of electrical installations, and even qualified sparks made plenty of mistakes.
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24-04-2016, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by realspeed ->
Not exactly correct. Under IEE (institute of electrical engineers) rules you are correct.

However under heath and safety rules providing you have right tools and knowledge you can do your own electrical work, but should be inspected by a qualified electrician afterwards.

Me? I did the 5 year apprenticeship in electrical and mechanical engineering many years ago.

Try wiring a telephone switchboard with what could be up to a hundred wires in each cable which is what I did for over 20 years


Little tip
if you want to test your own sockets this little gadget is
for you

link

http://www.tester.co.uk/martindale-c...FYpAGwodrIgGjA
I have something similar except mine's a Fluke model with audio. A constant tone if all's okay, a pulsed tone if not. I only use it for confirming isolation (can hear it go quiet when the correct breaker/fuse is isolated) and for polarity checks. A proper loop tester is used to check any sockets before and after they've been replaced .
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24-04-2016, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Aafak ->
Not so, the reason for leaving cables long behind sockets is obvious. A short cable like a matchstick and 2.5mm cable is like a matchstick will not bend and needs excessive force to push back hence straining connections . A longer length of cable is more supple and can be coiled in a gentle manner.
Don't believe me, then place a matchstick between the palms of each hand and try to bend it .

Then it is very stupid in my opinion telling any untrained person that the can change a switch-socket , unless a person has seen the socket and the possible wiring problems behind it such as overcrowding etc and the other issues I have mentioned of non compatible imperial/ metric and damaged threads.
I think you may have mis-read my post. I am saying that longer cables are better. Plus electrical manufacturers love to change designs so that things no longer fit or cables no longer reach.

It would be great to get someone in to do all of our jobs but unfortunately not everyone can afford it these days.

I don't blame sparks for the prices because they have to pay for the constant updates and training that keep the European rule makers in a job.
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24-04-2016, 02:49 PM
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I don't blame sparks for the prices because they have to pay for the constant updates and training that keep the European rule makers in a job.
Not after June, I hope!
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24-04-2016, 02:52 PM
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Of course not.
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24-04-2016, 02:54 PM
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Brexits never miss an opportunity do they?
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24-04-2016, 03:03 PM
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No.
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24-04-2016, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Longdogs ->
I think you may have mis-read my post. I am saying that longer cables are better. Plus electrical manufacturers love to change designs so that things no longer fit or cables no longer reach.

It would be great to get someone in to do all of our jobs but unfortunately not everyone can afford it these days.

I don't blame sparks for the prices because they have to pay for the constant updates and training that keep the European rule makers in a job.
You're right about the constant training and exams. I remember watching Billy on DIY SOS, having just done an exam and was waiting anxiously for the result.

Just spoken to my neighbour who says he is going to change his plates. I've asked him to let me know what pole (single or double) they are and how he gets on.

I don't know why they're grey either!

ETA. The flat and thus the sockets are 22 years old.
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24-04-2016, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Longdogs;892168[B
]I think you may have mis-read my post. I am saying that longer cables are better[/B]. Plus electrical manufacturers love to change designs so that things no longer fit or cables no longer reach.

It would be great to get someone in to do all of our jobs but unfortunately not everyone can afford it these days.

I don't blame sparks for the prices because they have to pay for the constant updates and training that keep the European rule makers in a job.
No I am agreeing , as I posted short cable ends made into the back of a sw/socket cannot bend and the socket needs forcing back as apposed to the gentle push needed with long curled cable ends.
 
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