09-06-2016, 10:58 PM
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Re: ITV 8.00PM Live 2 hour EU debate.
Originally Posted by Meg
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I thought Andrea Leadsom and Gisela Stuart stood out for me. They were calm, clear and concise in their delivery.
No waffle ... no back-biting.
10-06-2016, 11:22 AM
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Re: ITV 8.00PM Live 2 hour EU debate.
I haven't seen either the debate on ITV, or Question Time on BBC. I don't watch them because I believe these things are stage-managed and the end result is that you learn nothing that you don't already know. However, I have seen several edited highlights of the debates all of which confirmed my suspicions, particularly the ITV debate.It seemed to me that the programme had been set up to stitch up Boris Johnson and create a few headlines. Boris was put up against three clever women which put him at a disadvantage. A disadvantage due his Public school upbringing, which would have instilled in him respect and politeness and taught to behave like a gentleman in his dealings with women. Whereas the women were less scrupulous I lost no time in attacking him personally.
It seemed to me that the whole of the debate was aimed at discrediting Boris and therefore undermining the Leave campaign. He was constantly interrupted and barracked I'm not allowed to make his case in a logical manner, I expected better of Amber Rudd and her gang
I thought it ironic that Nicola Sturgeon should be castigating Boris for wanting to leave Europe, when it's only a few months ago she was making the case for Scotland to leave the UK. From what I've seen which, I reiterate it is limited to edited highlights, Boris managed to hold his own.
10-06-2016, 12:49 PM
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Re: ITV 8.00PM Live 2 hour EU debate.
Originally Posted by Rainmaker
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I haven't seen either the debate on ITV, or Question Time on BBC. I don't watch them because I believe these things are stage-managed and the end result is that you learn nothing that you don't already know. However, I have seen several edited highlights of the debates all of which confirmed my suspicions, particularly the ITV debate. It seemed to me that the programme had been set up to stitch up Boris Johnson and create a few headlines. Boris was put up against three clever women which put him at a disadvantage. A disadvantage due his Public school upbringing, which would have instilled in him respect and politeness and taught to behave like a gentleman in his dealings with women. Whereas the women were less scrupulous I lost no time in attacking him personally.
It seemed to me that the whole of the debate was aimed at discrediting Boris and therefore undermining the Leave campaign. He was constantly interrupted and barracked I'm not allowed to make his case in a logical manner, I expected better of Amber Rudd and her gang
I thought it ironic that Nicola Sturgeon should be castigating Boris for wanting to leave Europe, when it's only a few months ago she was making the case for Scotland to leave the UK. From what I've seen which, I reiterate it is limited to edited highlights, Boris managed to hold his own.
I am still trying to work that one out.
The word hypocrite springs to mind.
10-06-2016, 01:19 PM
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Re: ITV 8.00PM Live 2 hour EU debate.
Originally Posted by Rainmaker
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It seemed to me that the programme had been set up to stitch up Boris Johnson and create a few headlines. Boris was put up against three clever women which put him at a disadvantage. A disadvantage due his Public school upbringing, which would have instilled in him respect and politeness and taught to behave like a gentleman in his dealings with women. Whereas the women were less scrupulous I lost no time in attacking him personally. It seemed to me that the whole of the debate was aimed at discrediting Boris and therefore undermining the Leave campaign. He was constantly interrupted and barracked I'm not allowed to make his case in a logical manner, I expected better of Amber Rudd and her gang
I also felt Boris was 'holding back' to some extent possibly so he could not be accused of being a dominating man with all those women .
.Scotland under Sturgeon had a referendum to become independent of the rest of the United Kingdom with whom it is so closely tied, yet she wishes to remain part of the large undemocratic block which I feel if it doesn't collapse will become the united states of Europe and a largely unelected dictatorship. It doesn't make sense to me..
10-06-2016, 01:20 PM
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Re: ITV 8.00PM Live 2 hour EU debate.
Originally Posted by Rainmaker
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It seemed to me that the programme had been set up to stitch up Boris Johnson and create a few headlines. Boris was put up against three clever women which put him at a disadvantage. A disadvantage due his Public school upbringing, which would have instilled in him respect and politeness and taught to behave like a gentleman in his dealings with women. Whereas the women were less scrupulous I lost no time in attacking him personally. It seemed to me that the whole of the debate was aimed at discrediting Boris and therefore undermining the Leave campaign. He was constantly interrupted and barracked I'm not allowed to make his case in a logical manner, I expected better of Amber Rudd and her gang
http://www.over50sforum.com/showthre...818#post922818
I also felt Boris was 'holding back' to some extent possibly so he could not be accused of being a dominating man with all those women .
.Scotland under Sturgeon had a referendum to become independent of the rest of the United Kingdom with whom it is so closely tied, yet she wishes to remain part of the large undemocratic block which I feel if it doesn't collapse will become the united states of Europe and a largely unelected dictatorship. It doesn't make sense to me..
10-06-2016, 01:40 PM
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Re: ITV 8.00PM Live 2 hour EU debate.
Originally Posted by Meg
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If that is the case RM I think it backfired . Had I not been a leave supporter my opinion on the debate would have been the same as that I expressed above about the 'remain' women.http://www.over50sforum.com/showthre...818#post922818
I also felt Boris was 'holding back' to some extent possibly so he could not be accused of being a dominating man with all those women .
What is the logic here
.Scotland under Sturgeon had a referendum to become independent of the rest of the United Kingdom with whom it is so closely tied, yet she wishes to remain part of the large undemocratic block which I feel if it doesn't collapse will become the united states of Europe and a largely unelected dictatorship. It doesn't make sense to me..
In my opinion the whole attack was orchestrated from Downing Street including the business with John Major.
10-06-2016, 02:13 PM
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Re: ITV 8.00PM Live 2 hour EU debate.
Originally Posted by Meg
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What is the logic here
.Scotland under Sturgeon had a referendum to become independent of the rest of the United Kingdom with whom it is so closely tied, yet she wishes to remain part of the large undemocratic block which I feel if it doesn't collapse will become the united states of Europe and a largely unelected dictatorship. It doesn't make sense to me..
What an embarrassment.
11-06-2016, 09:46 AM
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Re: ITV 8.00PM Live 2 hour EU debate.
Originally Posted by Rainmaker
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It seemed to me that the whole of the debate was aimed at discrediting Boris and therefore undermining the Leave campaign. He was constantly interrupted and barracked I'm not allowed to make his case in a logical manner, I expected better of Amber Rudd and her gang|
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