13-12-2020, 10:15 PM
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Re: Trump to execute 5 convicted killers
Originally Posted by Dextrous63
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Really? Not sure that's how some might view it.Anyway, let's look at this "extention" you refer to. Since you brought it up, perhaps you'd like to elucidate on some specific examples that you've got in mind. Who do you think would benefit from these "mercy killings"?
13-12-2020, 10:28 PM
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So you'd advocate euthanising anyone with a psychiatric mental illness - because that can be interpreted as being profoundly psychologically unwell. That would include anyone with dementia and Alzheimer's. As well as women who develop postpartum psychotic depression. Even people with a brain tumour would be condemned. What about young girls (or boys) with Bullimia or anorexia? Someone with a learning disability would be ok? If their IQ was too low would you also euthanise them?How about downs syndrome? Autism? Where do you draw the line? Who decides?
13-12-2020, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS
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So you'd advocate euthanising anyone with a psychiatric mental illness - because that can be interpreted as being profoundly psychologically unwell. That would include anyone with dementia and Alzheimer's. As well as women who develop postpartum psychotic depression. Even people with a brain tumour would be condemned. What about young girls (or boys) with Bullimia or anorexia? Someone with a learning disability would be ok? If their IQ was too low would you also euthanise them? How about downs syndrome? Autism? Where do you draw the line? Who decides?
13-12-2020, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bakerman
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I am absolutely appalled that you would say such a wicked thing. Clearly, you are an apologist for Nazi doctrine. Shame. Shame. Shame.
Galton was an interesting character who developed the idea of using fingerprints as a method of criminal identification as well as many other scientific principles we still use.
13-12-2020, 10:49 PM
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Re: Trump to execute 5 convicted killers
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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So you'd advocate euthanising anyone with a psychiatric mental illness - because that can be interpreted as being profoundly psychologically unwell. That would include anyone with dementia and Alzheimer's. As well as women who develop postpartum psychotic depression. Even people with a brain tumour would be condemned. What about young girls (or boys) with Bullimia or anorexia? Someone with a learning disability would be ok? If their IQ was too low would you also euthanise them? How about downs syndrome? Autism? Where do you draw the line? Who decides?
13-12-2020, 10:52 PM
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Re: Trump to execute 5 convicted killers
Originally Posted by Dextrous63
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Indeed. The list could include many things. A "propensity towards religion" perhaps? The psychological aspect has a whole host of interpretations.
13-12-2020, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Yes, but what I would like to see the option being available, not a thing to be used in every case.
13-12-2020, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Bruce
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I agree with your sentiments but the idea of eugenics is far older than the Nazis. It was a term coined by British mathematician Francis Galton in the 1880s and became a popular notion in the UK in the late 19th and early 20th century. He proposed the idea of improving the quality of the population by controlling who could breed much earlier.Galton was an interesting character who developed the idea of using fingerprints as a method of criminal identification as well as many other scientific principles we still use.
up to and including 1976 forced sterilisation was still taking place in the USA - and more than likely well after 1976 too.
13-12-2020, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dextrous63
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Who would decide?
14-12-2020, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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That would have to be part of the protocol that would need to be set out to cater for different examples but it is entirely feasible.
.If only you'd been around in the early 1930's, you'd have been a welcome addition to a fledgling political movement with your faith in setting up "protocols"
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