04-06-2018, 12:12 AM
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Re: Last Gasp Attempt !
Originally Posted by Moscow
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You should know, Swim, that the much vaunted 'Red Lines'are no such thing and just negotiating tools......just as the EU's Free movement of Labour red line ( 1 of the 4 EU 'principles/red lines') will be negotiable.
The final deal will see movement from both sides.
Quietly, behind the scenes, a deal is being formulated!
04-06-2018, 12:15 AM
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Re: Last Gasp Attempt !
Originally Posted by Moscow
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Of course Brexit will be a success.At the end of the process we will be outwith the EU....Success!!
04-06-2018, 06:50 AM
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Re: Last Gasp Attempt !
Originally Posted by Moscow
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You should know, Swim, that the much vaunted 'Red Lines'are no such thing and just negotiating tools......just as the EU's Free movement of Labour red line ( 1 of the 4 EU 'principles/red lines') will be negotiable.
The final deal will see movement from both sides.
Quietly, behind the scenes, a deal is being formulated!
The Brexit Red Lines are held as none negotiable by some.
JRM and his bunch for one.
They have enough votes to insist on them, they see anything else as a betrayal.
The EU will not move, they have no need to.
There are those on this forum who are quite vocal in agreeing with them.
The EU is in trouble, it has to change, the UK are the only member to vote to leave.
All the others are not leaving.
Austria, Hungary, Poland, Spain, Italy etc are not leaving, they are simply ignoring the parts they do not like.
Austria has just decided to rubbish Benefits for Migrants, including EU ones.
Our Politicians simply did not have the guts to do it.
Brexit will not suddenly give us a new bunch of competent Politicians, just the same stupid bunch stumbling along with the Great British Public suffering as usual.
04-06-2018, 08:39 AM
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Re: Last Gasp Attempt !
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Let's face it Brexit voters will never be shot of the EU. It's like believing in Santa.
It's the nature of our new relationship that's being negotiated.
I'm convinced you have frightened yourself in to thinking we are at war or something.
04-06-2018, 08:40 AM
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Re: Last Gasp Attempt !
Originally Posted by Purwell
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Can't see anything great about the British public to be honest.
04-06-2018, 08:48 AM
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Re: Last Gasp Attempt !
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiThe Brexit Red Lines are held as none negotiable by some.
JRM and his bunch for one.
They have enough votes to insist on them, they see anything else as a betrayal.
The EU will not move, they have no need to.
There are those on this forum who are quite vocal in agreeing with them.
The EU is in trouble, it has to change, the UK are the only member to vote to leave.
All the others are not leaving.
Austria, Hungary, Poland, Spain, Italy etc are not leaving, they are simply ignoring the parts they do not like.
Austria has just decided to rubbish Benefits for Migrants, including EU ones.
Our Politicians simply did not have the guts to do it.
Brexit will not suddenly give us a new bunch of competent Politicians, just the same stupid bunch stumbling along with the Great British Public suffering as usual.
Like I said our negotiating teams are quietly going about their business.
The brexit negotiations are over 75% complete.
You told us that we didn't have enough negotiators to pull this off......It seems the ones we have are getting on with it anyway.
Our politicians ARE incompetent and do NOT represent the electorate.
After Brexit has been successfully concluded there will be new targets and fresh blood on the carpet.
We, the people, have those that would sell this country out in our sights. We can mobilise, we can organise and we can force change.
We, the people, are taking back our country......one step at a time.
04-06-2018, 08:50 AM
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Re: Last Gasp Attempt !
Originally Posted by Moscow
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JMR isn't doing the negotiating.Like I said our negotiating teams are quietly going about their business.
The brexit negotiations are over 75% complete.
You told us that we didn't have enough negotiators to pull this off......It seems the ones we have are getting on with it anyway.
Our politicians ARE incompetent and do NOT represent the electorate.
After Brexit has been successfully concluded there will be new targets and fresh blood on the carpet.
We, the people, have those that would sell this country out in our sights. We can mobilise, we can organise and we can force change.
We, the people, are taking back our country......one step at a time.
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