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21-09-2015, 11:41 AM
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This man deserves a medal from the Royal Humane Society for telling it like it really is under the 'nasty party's regime.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...6pLid%3D384740
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21-09-2015, 11:53 AM
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Or rather someone's opinion of how it is. Trouble is with public services is that there will never be enough money so satisfy every need, and this insinuation that conservatives go around bashing the weakest for pleasue is as ridiculous as it is pathetic....
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21-09-2015, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by plantman ->
Or rather someone's opinion of how it is. Trouble is with public services is that there will never be enough money so satisfy every need, and this insinuation that conservatives go around bashing the weakest for pleasue is as ridiculous as it is pathetic....

Not True - thousands of disabled claimants have died following DWP determination they are 'fit for work'.

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2...nt-dwp-figures
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21-09-2015, 01:20 PM
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Yes Geoff, and this one in the PM's own constituency, just aged 40.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-death-3194250
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21-09-2015, 01:47 PM
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Re: Nice one!!! - somebody at last telling it true

Originally Posted by Uncle Joe ->
This man deserves a medal from the Royal Humane Society for telling it like it really is under the 'nasty party's regime.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...6pLid%3D384740
90 people die a month after being declared fit for work, what does that prove. Far more die each month who are working.
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21-09-2015, 01:53 PM
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Beware when interpreting statistics ...
Campaigners demand welfare overhaul after statistics reveal 2,380 people died between 2011 and 2014 shortly after being declared able to work
I heard this being discussed on a programme on the radio.
The figures are meaningless because we do not know how many of those people would have died anyway had they not been declared fit for work .

The fact that the people were being tested for suitability to work in the first place indicates they may have had some kind of medical condition and therefore had a greater potential to die while working the the general population.
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21-09-2015, 02:02 PM
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On the other hand it also appears that tens of thousands who have been declared fit for work have actually returned to work, now isn't that a shocker...
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21-09-2015, 02:33 PM
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On the other hand it also appears that tens of thousands who have been declared fit for work have actually returned to work, now isn't that a shocker...
Not really Barry, many can work if they can use a PC they say.
I can use a PC but I couldn't work, but I don't need to.
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21-09-2015, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Wrinkly ->
Not really Barry, many can work if they can use a PC they say.
I can use a PC but I couldn't work, but I don't need to.
Whatever work they end up doing has got to be better than indolence on benefits surely, both for themselves and for the country.

The point is Arthur that these tests have weeded out many people who were claiming benefits through choice rather than necessity, which is just leeching off the rest of us. You must be quite naive if you believe that everyone on benefits needs to be on them, when in fact it is just a lifestyle choice for some. Do you not think they need wheedling out or do you think that every claimant, whether genuine or not, is deserving of our benevolence?
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21-09-2015, 03:03 PM
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Just like War, there is always Collateral.
 
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