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29-02-2016, 09:58 AM
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Churchill.

Did anyone see the play about Churchill last night ? I thought it was excellent and will probably win some awards . I well remember as a young man there being rumours about Churchill being in poor health and he was still prime minister. Coming from a mining family there wasn't much love lost for him in our household but he was certainly an inspiring PM during the war.
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29-02-2016, 10:04 AM
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I have recorded it Alan to watch at leisure
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29-02-2016, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Cooke ->
Did anyone see the play about Churchill last night ? I thought it was excellent and will probably win some awards . I well remember as a young man there being rumours about Churchill being in poor health and he was still prime minister. Coming from a mining family there wasn't much love lost for him in our household but he was certainly an inspiring PM during the war.

Yes agree with that statement
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29-02-2016, 11:25 AM
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Certainly a far better Prime Minister than any over the last few years.
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29-02-2016, 11:34 AM
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We recorded it to watch tonight. Tend to record most long itv programmes so we can whizz through all the adverts!
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02-03-2016, 01:13 AM
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I watched it Alan, and I thought it was very good.
I bet you're right about awards for the acting.
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11-03-2016, 10:31 AM
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We thought the drama was excellent.
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11-03-2016, 10:46 AM
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I don't think Churchill has, or deserves, any friends in Australia.

Churchill deceives Prime Minister John Curtin regarding the defence of Singapore

Although repeatedly assuring Australia's Prime Minister John Curtin of the British government's commitment to the defence of Singapore, the British Prime Minister Winston Churchill had already written off the defence of Singapore as a lost cause when he was giving those assurances. He knew that Singapore was only a "cardboard fortress", whose defenders lacked tanks, artillery, adequate air defences, and modern fighter aircraft. After Japan entered the war on the side of its Axis partners Germany and Italy, Churchill was only interested in saving Burma and India in the Asia-Pacific region, and he ignored pleas from Curtin for meaningful reinforcement for the defenders of Singapore. Although not admitting this to Curtin, Churchill was obsessed with defeating Germany and was prepared to abandon Australia to the Japanese if they wanted it.

To ease Curtin's deepening concern for Australia's safety, and resist Australia withdrawing its military forces from Britain, North Africa, and the Middle East, Churchill assured Curtin that a British fleet would be dispatched to save Australia if Japan invaded in massive strength. This was a lie. Churchill had no intention of sending a British fleet to save Australia from a Japanese invasion. He had already betrayed Australia at the Arcadia Conference.

Curtin was becoming convinced during December 1941 that Churchill's assurances of British military support for Australia against Japan were worthless, and he was not prepared to see Australia abandoned by the British to a Japanese invasion. On 26 December 1941, the Australian Prime Minister addressed the nation in a radio address that made it quite clear that Australia was in grave danger from the Japanese and reflected Curtin's disillusionment with Churchill's assurances that Britain would furnish powerful support if Australia was threatened with Japanese invasion.

In the course of this famous speech, which was published in the Melbourne Herald newspaper on 27 December 1942, Curtin said,

"Without any inhibitions of any kind, I make it quite clear that Australia looks to America, free of any pangs as to our traditional links or kinship with the United Kingdom."


The statement caused a sensation. Churchill was furious, and addressed an angry cable to Curtin. President Roosevelt mistakenly believed that Australia was a British colony in 1941, and felt that Curtin's speech smacked of disloyalty. When it was explained to Roosevelt later that Australia was an independent nation, the American President came to respect Curtin's strong leadership and patriotism.

Basically you can thank the treacherous Churchill for the ANZUS Treaty signed in 1951 and still in effect today.
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11-03-2016, 01:46 PM
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Bruce, you make a very convincing case. I have just a small reservation which is whether Churchill actually had a fleet to send to defend Australia. I think not. I suppose he wasn’t prepared to admit that even to Curtin.
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11-03-2016, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Cooke ->
Did anyone see the play about Churchill last night ? I thought it was excellent and will probably win some awards . I well remember as a young man there being rumours about Churchill being in poor health and he was still prime minister. Coming from a mining family there wasn't much love lost for him in our household but he was certainly an inspiring PM during the war.
Yes, an excellent film. I recorded it too.

The thing that I find slightly annoying is that, after the war ended, Churchill's reward for successfully leading this country to victory was to be kicked in the teeth by a 'grateful' electorate.
 
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