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Funny question
What has Donald Trump got to with anything ?
You may be right!
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Well maybe soon we can join the other 99% of earth's life forms that are extinct!
Possibly sooner than we imagine. Are the risks greater from natural or anthropogenic sources?
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Possibly sooner than we imagine. Are the risks greater from natural or anthropogenic sources?
Thats a very long word Cinders, what does it mean??

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24-08-2019, 06:05 PM
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Imo the fires in Brazil do not appear to be wildfires, to me
they seem to be set purposefully and in a controlled
manner?
To back this opinion up l use my own experience of forest
fires in SA.
We suffered from several fires whilst living in the southern
cape forests, which were mainly exotic pine trees but had
areas of indigenous forests as well.
During these fires the pines burned explosively, but when the
fire reached a stretch indigenous forest the fire failed to
penetrate the indigenous trees!
It seems that the trees in rainforests do not burn easily and
would require a good deal of encouragement to do so!
The news reel footage l have seen of the Brazil fires also
back up my opinion as the fires are nothing like the ones l
experienced in SA which were often awe inspiring and
frightening, see the california fires!
So l believe the Brazil fires are contrived by who knows for
reasons which will become apparent soon!

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https://www.wwf.org.uk/updates/5-way...jApYBbmNr921lA
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G7 pledges €20 million to help rainforest .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ainforest.html
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G7 pledges €20 million to help rainforest .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ainforest.html
Imo muddy, money down the drain? The fires were set on
Purpose by the governments, in order to get popular votes
from prospective farmers who are desperate for new farming
lands? This may help them short term to gain or consolidate
their power base! It will also give them the opportunity to
grab some of the promised funds! But it will be too little to
have any effect on dowsing th fires, and in fact will be
encouraging similar events in the future, Unfortunately there is
very little we can do to mitigate what is taking place as the
problem is global and is driven by one factor? And we all know
what that is!!!

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26-08-2019, 09:12 PM
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An article written by Eric Margolis. Interesting read.



BURN THE AMAZON!

Cut down the trees. Kill the wild animals. Burn the bush. Pollute the rivers. Pave over the grass. Raise more beef, pigs and poultry in cages.

That’s the credo of the new right. Hatred of Nature is an integral part of its politics. President Donald Trump is the high priest of such environmental vandalism. In his narrow land-developer mind, Nature is a left-wing liberal conspiracy.

Trump’s Brazilian wannabe, President Jair Bolsonaro, is now doing his mentor one better: he encouraged Brazilian farmers, loggers and miners, all key Bolsonaro constituencies, to accelerate their destruction of the Amazon rain forest, which provides 20% of the Earth’s oxygen.

The farmers, miners and loggers responded to his call by burning the irreplaceable forest, the world’s largest, at a rate over 80% higher than last year. Rarely has the world seen a more horrifying example of humans destroying the small planet on which they live.

Bolsonaro and his fellow Brazilian vandals say they lack the means to stop this incendiary epidemic. Nonsense. The Brazilian president is a former army officer. He must deploy the entire Brazilian Army to protect his nation’s most important resource, the Amazon. Neighboring Bolivia, Columbia and Paraguay should join in. Here is a perfect example for the UN Security Council to take action by declaring the 75,000 man-made fires a threat to all humanity and threaten to sanction Brazil’s exports if its does not take decisive action.

France’s president, Emmanuel Macron put it right at the current G7 meeting at Biarritz, ‘our house is on fire.’ France, Spain and Portugal all have their very serious dry season fires, but they send small armies to combat them. Climate change is playing a major role in sparking the raging fires. Unlike Bolsonaro, the European nations don’t absurdly claim the fires were begun by NGO’s (non-governmental environmental organizations).

Brazil’s army numbers 222,700 men, backed by reserves of 1,980,000. Mobilize them. Bolsonaro has been eager to send special paramilitary militia groups into slums in Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo. Send them to the Amazon, which has three million species of plants and animals, and one million indigenous people.

The Amazon’s forests are being burned primarily to create more grazing land for cattle, one of Brazil’s most important exports. Producing meat is not only cruel, it uses up inordinate amounts of land and water. All those who adopt ‘meatless Mondays’ or purchase new plant-based burgers are directly fighting the destruction of the Amazon.

The slow death of the Amazon is an alarm call to us all of the importance of trees to mankind. I’ve been to many nations – such as India and Haiti – where most of their original trees were cut down – and the result has been an environmental disaster for mankind and animals.

We are wanton and prodigal in our over-use of wood. Trees must be protected – as the city of Toronto has so wisely done by fencing off trees in construction zones. I hope that a way will be found to convert plastic waste into building materials.

The wide-scale destruction of the great North American boreal forest is a crime that must end now. Fly over the ‘clear-cut’ zones of tree destruction in Canada and the US to see the full horror of the industrialized massacre of our trees. Brazil is not the only killer of forests.

Recycling all wood is the first step. Banning open-air camp fires is another sensible step. Those who make a living by killing trees and animals must be advised to find other work at a time when labor is short.

Trump and Bolsonaro are modern-day vandals. The gutting of America’s wildlife and environmental laws by the Trump administration is a shameful act of ignorance. But one supposes that our president, who appears to live on burgers and diet Coke, has zero interest in wetlands, trees, birds, animals or rivers.

Even Adolf Hitler was an arch conservationist and vegetarian who hated smokers and loved birds and trees. The Mongols destroyed every city in their bloody path to free up more grazing for their ponies. Bolsonaro and Trump would feel right at home with Genghis Khan and his boys.
Copyright Eric S. Margolis 2019
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26-08-2019, 10:22 PM
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Yet Trump stood there today at G7 saying what an environmentalist he was and how committed he was to the cause. He explained that he had to exploit the earth's resources in order to make money help everyone save the planet.
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Everyone has Trump on the brain .
I don't think he is responsible for burning the rainforest .
The Brazilian president is the usual sort of idiot they elect in South America .
Ex military ,ignorant and arrogant.
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