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23-11-2016, 02:54 AM
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BREXIT: The Facts Behind EU Propaganda


The EU bureaucrats and remain supporters were wrong. A wealth of information existed to persuade voters to remain, yet conversely, material intentionally based on belief and mass media propaganda.

BREXIT
The facts behind EU propaganda
The EU hierarchy and criminal associations
Post BREXIT

BREXIT

"The EU is the old Soviet Union dressed in Western clothes" - Mikhail Gorbachev, former General Secretary of the USSR.

Based on abstracts, the Holy Grail of creating a diverse, multicultural and equality utopia failed to work anywhere. From the Marxist origins of the USSR to the recent socialist failure in Venezuela, all previous attempts to socially engineer utopic societies failed, invariably morphing into dictatorships.
The BREXIT regional and social demographics reflected already indoctrinated Millennials, who mainly voted for socialist dependency, typifying the preferences of a government dependant 'selfie' generation.

The EU, in addition to National Socialism and Communism, comprise the three major ideological scourges of the 20th century. The UK survived the horrors of European 20th century concentration camps and Gulags, intentionally staying away from the isms arising within Europe and the EU remains no different. The BREXIT result also ran deeper than superficial economics, or the social justice issues presented in the mainstream media. In reality, the EU reflects the drive towards progressivism, disguised as progress and foisted onto populations by elite politicians, using treaties.

No more 20th century jackboots, the 21st arrives with deceit hidden behind manifestos, promises and smiles; duplicity and stealth purposely designed to fool a gullible millennial generation.

The Facts Behind EU Propaganda

"Public opinion will be led to adopt, without knowing it, the proposals we dare not present to them directly. All the earlier proposals will be in the new text, but will be hidden and disguised" - Valery Giscard D’Estang, member of the Constitutional Council of France, on the 2007 Lisbon treaty.

Future historians might describe the EU concept as laudable and after two world wars in one century, which left Europe a graveyard, for all the right reasons. Yet ever since its early construction in 1957 as a European Economic Community (EEC), the underlying purpose always remained political domination as a United States of Europe. A political goal finally achieved by the Maastricht Treaty in 1993, modifying previous treaties, which integrated European countries into the European Union of today.

"Britain is different. Of course, there will be transfers of sovereignty. But would I be intelligent to draw the attention of public opinion to this fact?" - Jean-Claude Juncker, current President of the European Union Commission.

The EU Hierarchy and Criminal Associations

"Corruption across EU breathtaking" - EU Home Affairs Commissioner Malmstroem, C. In the 2014 'EU Anti-corruption Report', the commissioner cites an annual figure of €120 billion (£99 billion).

José Barroso resigned the EU Presidency in 2014, amid allegations of corruption and cronyism.
Jean-Claude Junkers, incumbent EU President, resigned as Luxembourg PM in 2013 following a corruption and wire-tapping scandal.
Christine Lagarde, IMF director, currently awaits trial for failing to prevent fraud when previous French Minister of Finance.

Nigel Farage UKIP explains the dangers and consequences of European Union fascism (3.10)
"Just who the hell do you people think you are? You are very, very dangerous people indeed."

Post BREXIT

Initially, the consequences will be tough as the UK discovers new markets and learns to stand on its own two feet again as an independent and sovereign nation, which it managed adequately for centuries prior to the EU. Yet consequently and as the Euro collapses, countries go bankrupt and the EU slowly implodes, there will nevertheless come a time when the UK breathes a sigh of relief that it chose Brexit.

In summary and as an older generation dies out, the greatest gift it can leave include constitutional safeguards to prevent Millennials going through the same trauma that befell Eastern Europe for decades, moreover, ushered in by the same ideological commissioners now in the EU hierarchy.

Sources

Bellamy, Richard. "The Liberty of the Moderns: Market Freedom and Democracy within the EU." Global Constitutionalism 1.01 (2012): 141-72. Reprinted as, "The EU threat to democracy and liberty" pdf; Philip Vander Elst, the Bruges Group.
BREXIT The Movie The Full Film - The definitive guide on the effects of EU membership (1.11.01)
Millière, Guy. "The Coming Collapse of the European Union." The Gatestone Institute, 2012.
The EU 'gravy train' - Exposing the corruption inside the EU hierarchy (3.55)

Addendum

The UK is a parliamentary democracy, which means the will of the people reflects through elected representatives and not majority opinion. Therefore, the recent high court ruling which stated that parliament ratify the referendum to invoke Article 50, remains unfortunately, but legally, correct. All recent major party leaders were pro EU, using treaties to bypass the electorate and why voting for Lib/Lab/Con over decades merely increased Britain’s EU involvement.
The reason for the delayed referendum since Blair has less to do with a people’s democracy, than waiting until successive parliamentary government leaders thought they could win.
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23-11-2016, 03:37 AM
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Oh Asia, I do wish you well but .....
many of our number seem to favour the really meaty Topics.
Intellectual challenges like
Artificial Flowers, Dumplings, Cats, 'Chit-chat', the Royals, the Weather and, the old favourite - endless navel-gazing about Forum Rules.

Few, I suspect, ever get past the first paragraph of any lengthy Deep and Meaningful.
However, engaging with those few might be enough !?


As for BREXIT, I'm happy to be an Aussie-ostrich (might that be an emu?), stick my head in the sand and wait-and-see.
Could be wrong but I see little prospect of any change to my lifestyle.
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Originally Posted by Pumicestone ->
Oh Asia, I do wish you well but .....
many of our number seem to favour the really meaty Topics.
Intellectual challenges like
Artificial Flowers, Dumplings, Cats, 'Chit-chat', the Royals, the Weather and, the old favourite - endless navel-gazing about Forum Rules.

Few, I suspect, ever get past the first paragraph of any lengthy Deep and Meaningful.
However, engaging with those few might be enough !?


As for BREXIT, I'm happy to be an Aussie-ostrich (might that be an emu?), stick my head in the sand and wait-and-see.
Could be wrong but I see little prospect of any change to my lifestyle.
Same here, come what may, I’m well distanced from the chaos that is coming, but that’s my point. Too many people trusted politicians, agonised over ‘Come dancing’ and took their eyes off the ball. Then complain about the NHS, immigration, austerity measures . . . I do and have posted other stuff, but saw so much confusion about what BREXIT and the EU really mean that I thought a bit of reality might not go amiss
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23-11-2016, 11:19 AM
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Hi Asia an interesting post thank you, if you read through the many threads in this section you will see that most of it has been voiced already by a number of members.

Initially, the consequences will be tough as the UK discovers new markets and learns to stand on its own two feet again as an independent and sovereign nation, which it managed adequately for centuries prior to the EU. Yet consequently and as the Euro collapses, countries go bankrupt and the EU slowly implodes, there will nevertheless come a time when the UK breathes a sigh of relief that it chose Brexit.
Again as many of us have observed .

I have no doubt we are in for a tough time in the years to come and some people may look at the short term difficulties presented by our departure from the EU and wish they had voted to stay in.

Others of us take a long-term view, we remember the pre-Common Market days and our independence. New birth is painful, the rebirth of our independence will be too.

Some of us remember post war rationing and the having to 'do without' so are no strangers a bit of real austerity and think it a price worth paying for our freedom.
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23-11-2016, 12:22 PM
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Hi Meg,
Yes, I’ve read some of the posts, but what no one has yet picked up on is what is behind all this. It goes a lot deeper than the EU, austerity and hard times. The EU post was an introduction, to point out that nearly half of the voting UK were willing to vote for fascism and don’t even know what it is. All across the west, including the US, what you’re actually seeing is cultural Marxism and it’s not going to go away.

If there’s enough interest I’ll set about explaining it, but if as Pumicestone implies, people are more interested in daily life, that’s fine by me too
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Originally Posted by Asia ->
Hi Meg,
Yes, I’ve read some of the posts, but what no one has yet picked up on is what is behind all this. It goes a lot deeper than the EU, austerity and hard times. The EU post was an introduction, to point out that nearly half of the voting UK were willing to vote for fascism and don’t even know what it is. All across the west, including the US, what you’re actually seeing is cultural Marxism and it’s not going to go away.

If there’s enough interest I’ll set about explaining it, but if as Pumicestone implies, people are more interested in daily life, that’s fine by me too
Asia some people will be interested some are not as happens with all topics, you are at liberty to post your own theories .

Personally I have no time for fascism or marxism and have my own reasons for wanting to leave the EU some of which are based on not wishing to pay for two masters.
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23-11-2016, 01:00 PM
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You may find a few people who want to discuss this, but I am afraid most will find it to be something we have been through time and time again. The truth is that we all have opinions on what the future holds, but without proof, that is all they are opinions !. Unless somebody has the ability to see into the future, nobody knows what the future holds, so I believe that we should base any actions on what we see now,rather than what might happen in the coming years.
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23-11-2016, 01:03 PM
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Excellent post Asia and re-iterates much of what I have posted in the BRExit section.

I have repeatedly tried to iterate to many on here that it makes not one jot of difference whether you vote Lib/Lab or Con and that just like in the USA, every candidate put before you is but a purposely placed elite stooge who will further their one world government agenda. In our case that translates as EU stooges who are all pushing through EU treaties without consulting the populous.

Despite this we still have old party political dinosaurs amongst the forum hell bent on trying to put down one of the parties in favour of another, completely oblivious to the fact that the party they favour is JUST THE SAME as all the rest and is destroying the sovereignty of Britain and taking away our freedoms which 1000s of soldiers died to protect.
It's incredibly sad to see.

The only change we have is to vote UKIP in as far as I can see. No other party is going to trigger Article 50 imo as they are all bought and paid for by the EU elite.

These are desperate times because we literally stand on the threshold of being fraudulently hand held and walked into a totalitarian regime from which we will never be permitted to walk away again. As the front door opened and those inside bid us welcome with knives concealed behind their backs, we heard the desperate cries of "don't go in!" from UKIP outside and from a sudden influx of "real" genuine groups who understand and thoroughly respect the British Constitution and our freedoms. Those brave people have woken the nation from its hypnotic stupor and given us enough cause to say "ok, hold on, let's not be hasty, let's back out now whilst we still can". We could of course elect to go back into the EU at a later stage if we so desired.

Unfortunately as you highlight it's not all as simple as that. Being so very close to the total annihilation of the UK as a sovereign entity and to the annihilation of Britain's as a people, these corrupt secret society megalomaniacs won't stand idle. They will pour through that open door in droves now and seize us in any way possible.

The youngsters have been subverted through education and through the clever media brainwashing. They have no clue what sovereignty means nor what the true impact will be to their future freedoms. That is a real problem because ultimately the older and wiser generation will move on and the youngsters will have the majority vote. Hence as you say, once again, a generation must sacrifice itself just as countless men and women have done so before, to ensure that future generations preserve their freedoms from tyranny and dictatorship.

We absolutely MUST set down the Constitution in proper form and pass through legislation that ensure it can never again be subverted by either parliament or indeed by the Monarchy without the full and total consultation and elected support of the people.

There is going to be much skulduggery.

The EU Stooge parties are going to make false promises about BRexit in order to ensure that they are in power for a term long enough to ensure that EU assimilation is achieved. They are NOT going to allow BRexit as their EU puppet masters will simply not allow them to trigger Article 50.

UKIP is the only chance the population has short of out and out revolution and civil war. Farage would trigger Article 50 imo. He would just get it done so the entire world can have absolutely no ambiguity and things would move on from there. The question is, will enough of the Leavers realise that or will a bunch of them fall for the spin of the Conservatives via May who will surely dupe them into believing she will honour BRexit ?

Perilous times indeed !
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Originally Posted by Pumicestone ->
Oh Asia, I do wish you well but .....
many of our number seem to favour the really meaty Topics.
Intellectual challenges like
Artificial Flowers, Dumplings, Cats, 'Chit-chat', the Royals, the Weather and, the old favourite - endless navel-gazing about Forum Rules.

Few, I suspect, ever get past the first paragraph of any lengthy Deep and Meaningful.
However, engaging with those few might be enough !?


As for BREXIT, I'm happy to be an Aussie-ostrich (might that be an emu?), stick my head in the sand and wait-and-see.
Could be wrong but I see little prospect of any change to my lifestyle.


However it is noticeable Pums that you yourself nevertheless introducuce any 'meaty ' topics or indeed any topics of any noticeable interest .
It's easy to pick and sneer at those who do -to pick on a typos or some other pedantic detail .
Looking forward to some interesting thought provoking subject started by yours truly .
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Hi muddy the waters, I am still having a problem understanding your English here"

However it is noticeable Pums that you yourself nevertheless introducuce any 'meaty ' topics or indeed any topics of any noticeable interest .
can you explain is pummie never introducing 'meaty' topics or as you say nevertheless introducuce 'meaty' topics - not on the tipple again I hope?
 
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