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Re: Young girl shot dead

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
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English Law is very specific.

For the Prats to be charged with Murder the prosecution would have to prove that they intended to kill her,
In this case they can't.

She was an innocent victim she was not the intended victim.
She was indeed in the wrong place at the wrong time as were the scum who shot her.
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21-05-2020, 08:52 PM
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Re: Young girl shot dead

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It is a disgrace Muddy and, if they are found guilty, more money will be spent keeping them in Prison. Perhaps we should exile criminals like this & make them live in countries that accept that kind of behaviour.

Mind you, I still think the best way to get rid of people who kill others, is the death penalty!
If the death penalty is NOT exacted, then I suggest that we hand down the maximum sentences, force them to serve out their full term, AND THEN EXILE THEM.
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21-05-2020, 08:58 PM
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Re: Young girl shot dead

Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
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English Law is very specific.

For the Prats to be charged with Murder the prosecution would have to prove that they intended to kill her,
In this case they can't.

She was an innocent victim she was not the intended victim.

As soon as the firearms were used, it is abundantly clear that they intended on killing SOMEONE. That demonstrates "malice of forethought" and thus 1st degree murder. Being a poor shot is NOT a defense.

In the United States, when a person is killed DURING THE COMMISION OF A FELONY, it is a clear demonstration of murder. That applies to everyone who took part in the felony, even if he/she did not actually pull the trigger.
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22-05-2020, 11:08 AM
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I have always thought that if you murder, your own life is forfeit. Since we no longer execute in this Country and seem to rely on offenders magically re-habilitating themselves. They should be assisted by making their incarceration extremely traumatic. If it don't hurt. It don't work. This should apply to criminals of all persuasions and offences.
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22-05-2020, 11:14 AM
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How can you really rehabilitate a murderer ?
There is a line once crossed that can never be retraced .
You cannot give back life .
While there are varying degrees of killing (Eg accidental or premeditated ) It would be hard to judge this one .
It was premeditated they went out with guns for no good purpose .
They did not intend to kill this poor girl but they did they could have held their fire until she passed but they did not .
They deserve the full weight of the law .
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22-05-2020, 01:22 PM
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I am for the death penalty and at times against it.

Think in this case an innocent man was killed.


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22-05-2020, 03:55 PM
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Re: Young girl shot dead

Originally Posted by Davenorave ->
I have always thought that if you murder, your own life is forfeit. Since we no longer execute in this Country and seem to rely on offenders magically re-habilitating themselves. They should be assisted by making their incarceration extremely traumatic. If it don't hurt. It don't work. This should apply to criminals of all persuasions and offences.
That's more or less what I said yesterday.
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22-05-2020, 05:08 PM
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Re: Young girl shot dead

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That's more or less what I said yesterday.
Which goes to show we are of a similar opinion.
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22-05-2020, 05:37 PM
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Re: Young girl shot dead

Originally Posted by Davenorave ->
I have always thought that if you murder, your own life is forfeit. Since we no longer execute in this Country and seem to rely on offenders magically re-habilitating themselves. They should be assisted by making their incarceration extremely traumatic. If it don't hurt. It don't work. This should apply to criminals of all persuasions and offences.
There has to be some sort of consequences for wrong doing .
Why don’t people think of the consequences ?
I mean here we have a gang of men who arm themselves with Guns ( from where and illegal in itself ) and go out in daylight intending to do serious harm.
Did they thing it was ok ?
Did they think ( as in the child grooming scandals ) that they are inviolate ? That they will be protected by their community ?That the police will turn ( as they have done so often ) a blind eye .
Obviously they did .

Blackburn is one of the most segregated towns in the uk . It is 95 % Pakistani .Many woman wear full niqab ( face covering ) and men are aggressive . They feel they can do what they like .
This is a country within a country .
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22-05-2020, 05:59 PM
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It's one of a number of colonies. English law does not apply in such colonies.

It SHOULD, but it doesn't. These colonies are to all intents not even a part of the UK except when it comes to things such as the NHS and Benefits.

Even a murder can, and often is, resolved by the family of the guilty party paying "blood money" to the family of the victim. It REALLY is that way. Just Google "Diya Islam" - and be sickened.
 
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