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19-10-2018, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Vaniy ->
I'm not getting nasty or personal just stating facts
Apologies you just happened to be post before mine it was previous spat I was referring to.
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19-10-2018, 04:10 PM
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For de Gaulle the EEC was a instrument to keep the germans in check. Too many wars had been fought over the centuries between them (the twe WW being a sad point in case). The english he called the lapdogs of the americans and he wanted no american intervention in european trades.
Think of chlorinated chickens and you see how right he was.
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19-10-2018, 04:16 PM
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Well that never happened the French are just the lap dogs of the Germans and America are all over trade without them nothing would get delivered Amazon etc.
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19-10-2018, 05:05 PM
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Before we get reprimanded on this discussion, it was de Gaulle who termed the british lapdogs to the americans.
The UK trades as much with the Usa as with the EU, and therefore is equally dependent on either of them.
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19-10-2018, 05:44 PM
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Yes well as I have said before De Gaulle was the most ungrateful piece of S*** we should have left him in France
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19-10-2018, 05:54 PM
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[QUOTE=Puddle Duck;1547510]
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Yes, plenty, although I would like to know why when asking those who wish to remain in the EU as to why and what the benefits will be, do they always come back with another question.
Yet again I put the same question and you replied with the above (although the question wasn't posed at yourself), the same thing . So you give me 4 answers to why we should stay in the EU or why it is stupid of us to leave and I will give you 5 why we should leave. That's a fair swap.

The status quo,

We won't have to spend billions of pounds on renegotiating trade deals with at least 77 countries we already trade with.

Some of our laws will stay aligned with the other EU members on important matters such as Environment (no borders there), work place Health and Safety etc.

Paid Annual leave

Maternity pay

Equal pay

Time off work each week

Clear food labeling-including allergies

Parental leave

Cleaner water and air

Non-discrimination

Health care on holiday

Freedom of movement

Sickness rights

Foreign study

Cheap telephone calls

One of the worlds biggest single markets

Guarantee of bank deposits up to 100,000 Euros

EU investment and because we are members external investment in to the UK

Britain's membership has shown growth in GDP per capita since 1973 UK up 102%, Germany up 99%, US up 97%, France up 74%

Growth of REAL disposable income since 1974 up 113%

Membership of EU single market means greater competition in services, which is good for business and consumers

Removal of trade barriers

Reduction of business costs,

Greater business efficiency

Elimination of anti-competitive practices such as monopolies and cartels

Harmonization of company law

EU regulators required banks to reduce bonuses


To name just a few,
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19-10-2018, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
For de Gaulle the EEC was a instrument to keep the germans in check. Too many wars had been fought over the centuries between them (the twe WW being a sad point in case). The english he called the lapdogs of the americans and he wanted no american intervention in european trades.
Think of chlorinated chickens and you see how right he was.
He was glad of British and American intervention in Europe in 1944 though.
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19-10-2018, 06:04 PM
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Did you know the EU has plans for all EU Member States to adopt the Euro by 2025 ?

So it would have been bye- bye £1
Not far off NOW as it happens £1 now equals 1.13 Euros, thanks a lot.
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19-10-2018, 06:07 PM
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He was glad of British and American intervention in Europe in 1944 though.
Typical British thinking going back 74 YEARS
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19-10-2018, 06:11 PM
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He was glad of British and American intervention in Europe in 1944 though.
1918 too. He was a POW in germany for two years. He never ever liked the germans Vaniy.
 
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