Hi

Unfortunately, yes.

I would say the party has three divisions, not two. Firstly the old school socialist Labour Party - a working class party for working class people - those few who still live by the words and ideas of Tony Benn. Secondly the Blairite Tory Lite brigade - middle class pseudo intellectuals like Ummuna and his ilk who don't understand the working class and, worse, don't care that they don't understand the backbone of our country. Thirdly the equally middle class identity-politics-obsessed Momentum members who only care about race, gender, religion etc and would neither recognise nor understand a working class person if one kicked them up the jacksie. Unless the first group mentioned can reclaim the party, it might as well be dead.

Have you met any Momentum people? None of them I have met are middle class.

I would say the party has three divisions, not two. Firstly the old school socialist Labour Party - a working class party for working class people - those few who still live by the words and ideas of Tony Benn. Secondly the Blairite Tory Lite brigade - middle class pseudo intellectuals like Ummuna and his ilk who don't understand the working class and, worse, don't care that they don't understand the backbone of our country. Thirdly the equally middle class identity-politics-obsessed Momentum members who only care about race, gender, religion etc and would neither recognise nor understand a working class person if one kicked them up the jacksie. Unless the first group mentioned can reclaim the party, it might as well be dead.

Good post .
I think the labour party as it once was is already dead,

To be perfectly honest, I'd very much like to see the resurgence of the traditional 'working men's' Labour party. That of Harold Wilson and earlier.

Earlier - Wilson was very much a Blair forerunner!

Not so sure about that, I learnt my Politics from Wilson who was a frequent visitor to my parents house.

"Indeed, according to a new report published by left-wing think-tank the Fabian Society, Labour’s support has ‘shifted to the big cities’ and away from the party’s old ‘heartlands’. There is a ‘growing hostility’ between the party’s old and new core voters. Labour, like social-democratic parties across Europe, has gone from being the voice of working people to being an organisation staffed and run by the university-educated middle-class elites in metropolitan hubs. Cultural appropriation, anyone?

It should be clear to everyone that Labour does not speak for working people, and nor does it aspire to. This party is now the property of an emerging new establishment; of a political set defined by ‘wokeness’ rather than class, by PC rather than populism, and by a belief that clever, ‘aware’ people who become members of Labour deserve a greater democratic say, but those people out there do not.

This conference has revealed something extraordinary: for all the Corbyn crew’s Blairphobic bluster, on the big question of our time – national democracy – these two wings are entirely united. Both moderates and radicals believe that the 17.4million’s revolt to take back democratic control from technocratic elites was a destabilising phenomenon. Both want to take back control from us and make political decision-making once more the prerogative of the well-connected."

Earlier - Wilson was very much a Blair forerunner!