12-10-2016, 11:00 AM
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Re: Is editing photos fair?
Forgive me if I'm wrong Mart and Meg, but I didn't think Mart's topic was a challenge of the rules of the Over50's photo competition, more a discussion on the wider subject of photography in general.The world is becoming a difficult place to live in where athletes can use science to enhance their performance, formula one drivers don't rely on much skill these days when engine performance is almost completely controlled from a computer, the pit wall, or who can supply the most money for development. General Knowledge quizzes have virtually been eliminated by Google and Smart Phones. The skills of driving and navigation are being eroded due to GPS and engine and vehicle management systems (even driverless cars are been developed) and calculators have replaced the brain to make complex and not so complex calculations.
There is the technology out there to give an unfair advantage to almost every competitive thing we do.
Personally I would not enter a photography competition with my meagre collection of equipment and software knowing that there are experts out there whose hobby it is to take beautiful and expertly presented photographs. I take lots of photos, some look good to me but wouldn't stand up to the experts scrutiny. In my opinion, the less you fiddle with a photo the better it comes out.
12-10-2016, 11:01 AM
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Re: Is editing photos fair?
*Not very long ago the OFF photo comp was won, and in my opinion rightly so, by a superb photo which had been obviously "photoshopped".I PM'd Mags and asked if it was OK to submit "photoshopped" images in the comp and her reply was that.... the only condition of the comp was that the photo must be the original work of the poster..... I replied to her saying that I would take her reply as a "yes"
*Edited to say....Jan 2016 comp Wrecks and Ruins
12-10-2016, 11:28 AM
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Re: Is editing photos fair?
Originally Posted by Meg
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Firstly I will say the competition on here is the domain of Mags and if anyone has any concerns about the content of photograph entries the best thing to do is to contact Mags by PM or start a thread in Contact a Moderator rather than discussing it in the thread.The rules state...
'All entries must be the original work of the member submitting them'.
I suppose this is open to interpretation, it has never been a problem before but for many like myself unskilled in photography this means posting an untouched picture.
I guess some members make small adjustments to the photographs to enhance the clarity but it seems some people are now taking 'enhancement' to a whole new level and manipulating photographs .
I guess it may be a joke for some but I don't think that is in the spirit of the competition even if the rules are not specific.
If people want a 'novelty picture' competition they should say so rather than spoiling what has always been a simple but enjoyable competion by trying to be clever
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I thought this thread was started by Mart because he was making a general comment about photography competitions but he goes on to mention by name the current competition running on here ....
http://www.over50sforum.com/showthre...05#post1004305
Mart goes on to ask...
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whole objects/people around in their photographs .
So in view of the fact that Mart seemed to not just be posting a general question but had concerns about what is or is not permissible taking into account some of the post in the in the current competition I replied.
The competition as far as I am aware was meant to be fairly relaxed and not too serious but some of our members do take it seriously and are not happy that some members have suddenly decided to mess around in the competition thread.
12-10-2016, 11:31 AM
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Re: Is editing photos fair?
Originally Posted by ruthio
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I'm sure that lots of posters, like me, enjoy looking at the current photo entries and voting...this is a most interesting and relevant discussion, why would you want or need to hide it away?
12-10-2016, 11:37 AM
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Re: Is editing photos fair?
Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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Forgive me if I'm wrong Mart and Meg, but I didn't think Mart's topic was a challenge of the rules of the Over50's photo competition, more a discussion on the wider subject of photography in general.The world is becoming a difficult place to live in where athletes can use science to enhance their performance, formula one drivers don't rely on much skill these days when engine performance is almost completely controlled from a computer, the pit wall, or who can supply the most money for development. General Knowledge quizzes have virtually been eliminated by Google and Smart Phones. The skills of driving and navigation are being eroded due to GPS and engine and vehicle management systems (even driverless cars are been developed) and calculators have replaced the brain to make complex and not so complex calculations.
There is the technology out there to give an unfair advantage to almost every competitive thing we do.
Personally I would not enter a photography competition with my meagre collection of equipment and software knowing that there are experts out there whose hobby it is to take beautiful and expertly presented photographs. I take lots of photos, some look good to me but wouldn't stand up to the experts scrutiny. In my opinion, the less you fiddle with a photo the better it comes out.
12-10-2016, 11:42 AM
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Re: Is editing photos fair?
Originally Posted by Meg
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Firstly I will say the competition on here is the domain of Mags and if anyone has any concerns about the content of photograph entries the best thing to do is to contact Mags by PM or start a thread in Contact a Moderator rather than discussing it in the thread.
I didn't think I had said anywhere that this thread should not be starter in order to discuss competitions.
If this is what was assumed my appologies.
12-10-2016, 12:12 PM
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Re: Is editing photos fair?
The thread I started was supposed to be a general one. Sorry if I caused any confusion about that.The photo in the current thread (workers on crane) was meant to be only an example of what could be thought a fair (or not) manipulation of a photo, rather than it being specific to the current thread.
I'll post the photo here so that people can see what I'm talking about but think it now ought to be removed from the competition thread (please). I'll maybe come up with another one instead.
12-10-2016, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by OldGreyFox
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There is the technology out there to give an unfair advantage to almost every competitive thing we do.
An expensive camera has the photo quality advantage as the photo is taken. The editing program makes up for a poorer camera being used ..but after the event. Editing can kind of level the playing field for the types of camera used. If using a program cannot be thought fair, quality will depend only on the camera and equipment that can be afforded.
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