08-12-2018, 08:17 PM
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Re: Flu jab 2018 booked
Originally Posted by Realist
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Your prerogative for your own body Julie. For that of your children, a different matter entirely. Given the extensive research and evidence and the fact that some children being given flu vaccines end up with things like Guillian Barre Syndrone (however tiny that number is) it seems pretty heartless to subject your kids to snake oil vaccines with serious side effects just because you personally refuse to take on board the data.
08-12-2018, 08:17 PM
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Re: Flu jab 2018 booked
Originally Posted by Purwell
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Just drinking a pint of beer, will that help me to fight off this terrible bout of flu?
09-12-2018, 12:51 AM
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Re: Flu jab 2018 booked
Originally Posted by Realist
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Sorry Brucey Boy no.These are the official figures from the ONS (Office For National Statistics) regarding deaths in England and Wales logged by specific cause of death.
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Again sorry Bruce but you are plain wrong.
In the raw data Excel files above the causes of death are specifically recorded. If you bother to look, you will see that deaths caused by Pneumonia are on their own separate line.
So, wrong on both counts sorry. #musttryharder
You merely show yet again (with your mindless repetition of things that you have already said) that you have no understanding of statistics, their collection and how changing the criteria can change the result.
The bureau clearly states that these figures are not logged by 'specifically recorded' cause of death they are deaths recorded where "Flu was mentioned as one of the causes of the death" there can be several causes of death mentioned.
The bureau also warns that you cannot add all the statistics together to arrive at a total because the same deaths appear in several categories. ie deaths from flu will also appear in deaths from pneumonia. Your repeated assertion that it is a 'specific' cause of death is just plain wrong.
Common sense tells you that the statistics are obviously flawed for your argument because the 2009 flu epidemic really happened and it is known that there were thousands extra deaths from flu that year as shown by the total deaths for that year yet the 'flu' statistics show a mere total of 79 deaths where flu was recorded as a cause - again because the ICD criteria were different at that time.
All that has happened is that the criteria for recording of statistics has changed there is no sudden increase in deaths from flu there has just been a change in the methods of recording deaths or a change in the number of causes of deaths that can be recorded.
Your ignorant use of statistics is totally flawed and just repeating the same old drivel over and over doesn't make it any less so.
09-12-2018, 04:39 PM
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Re: Flu jab 2018 booked
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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I'd be interested to find out how many of those who had the flu jab on the forum ended up contracting flu this season. Perhaps we could ask that question in March 19.
10-12-2018, 01:58 AM
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Re: Flu jab 2018 booked
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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I'd be interested to find out how many of those who had the flu jab on the forum ended up contracting flu this season. Perhaps we could ask that question in March 19.
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