05-10-2019, 02:26 AM
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Re: Does being a good human being matter to you?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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I like this idea that we carry on learning when we are dead. Really makes a lot of sense 
05-10-2019, 05:47 AM
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Re: Does being a good human being matter to you?
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Me?I could never support capital punishment. Never.
However when it comes to imprisonment then banged up in a cell 24 hours a day with nothing more than the essentials of life and to hell with what it does to the inmate ticks all the boxes for the worst offenders.
Cheaper than a "humane" regime, literally psyche destroying, a stretched out never ending punishment.
Sorta Oubliette with basic food and environment and medical support. Nothing else. No visitors, no luxuries such as books, no hope.
Would I impose such a terrible sentence?
For the worst of the worst - but not the genuinely insane - then absolutely yes.
Starting with the likes of Ian Huntley.
05-10-2019, 09:12 AM
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I would not agree with this .Those criminals who commit terrible crimes are the ones who cost more time and trouble .
They have to be protected from other prisoners who attack them .
Others attack other prisoners and guards .
This would not happen were they not there in the first place.
Eventually the death penalty will be reinstated probably all over the world .
As our population increases and resources dwindle keeping dangerous criminals alive for the sake of the none existent moral high ground will become an unaffordable indulgence.
05-10-2019, 11:49 AM
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Re: Does being a good human being matter to you?
Originally Posted by AnnieS
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Eventually humanity will destroy itself. It seems that's our destiny.
05-10-2019, 12:14 PM
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Doctors are prepared to allow patients to die when it suits them based primarily on the cost of keeping them alive. They will argue that it is better to allow them to die rather than keep them alive and waste money in doing so when there appears to be no hope. Doctors have even gone to court to force patients to die because they see it as a waste of time and resources in keeping someone alive who they feel in their professional opinion will not live long.We constantly hear of 'postcode lottery' when it comes to NHS treatments and medicines. Some people can have it whilst others cannot, the result usually ending in prolonged death. The government will not spend money on certain types of drugs that will allow people to live longer but yet the same government allow the worst of the worst of criminals in the country to live at huge expense to the tax payer.
Therefore conclusion, the NHS, doctors and the government are prepared to allow people to die due to the cost of medical care and cost of medicines but yet you can kill 100 people in the worst possible way and you will be allowed to live, the only thing being lost is their freedom. They get 3 balanced meals a day, a warm bed, access to education, access to work, access to gym, all at tax payers expense but yet poor old Timmy who has a brain tumour is told he will have to die because it is too expensive to keep him alive or Ms Joe has to die because the medication to keep her alive is too expensive and thus the NHS will not pay for it and she cannot afford the £20,000 a month it will cost but hey, kill children, kill babies, kill anyone basically and we will keep you alive and well for the rest of your life. It's wrong, so very wrong.
05-10-2019, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dodge
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Doctors are prepared to allow patients to die when it suits them based primarily on the cost of keeping them alive. They will argue that it is better to allow them to die rather than keep them alive and waste money in doing so when there appears to be no hope. Doctors have even gone to court to force patients to die because they see it as a waste of time and resources in keeping someone alive who they feel in their professional opinion will not live long.We constantly hear of 'postcode lottery' when it comes to NHS treatments and medicines. Some people can have it whilst others cannot, the result usually ending in prolonged death. The government will not spend money on certain types of drugs that will allow people to live longer but yet the same government allow the worst of the worst of criminals in the country to live at huge expense to the tax payer.
Therefore conclusion, the NHS, doctors and the government are prepared to allow people to die due to the cost of medical care and cost of medicines but yet you can kill 100 people in the worst possible way and you will be allowed to live, the only thing being lost is their freedom. They get 3 balanced meals a day, a warm bed, access to education, access to work, access to gym, all at tax payers expense but yet poor old Timmy who has a brain tumour is told he will have to die because it is too expensive to keep him alive or Ms Joe has to die because the medication to keep her alive is too expensive and thus the NHS will not pay for it and she cannot afford the £20,000 a month it will cost but hey, kill children, kill babies, kill anyone basically and we will keep you alive and well for the rest of your life. It's wrong, so very wrong.
05-10-2019, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dodge
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Doctors are prepared to allow patients to die .........
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