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28-10-2018, 07:00 PM
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Black page in EU history

During the transition period the UK has to follow EU regulations. Implement rules without having a say in the decision making. Under pressure from Berlin, the EU Commission is currently busy transposing the Fiscal Pact into EU law.
Can someone please tell me wether this effects brexit?

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28-10-2018, 07:02 PM
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Totally wrong, but expected.
I'm wondering if it's all going to affect holidays, if you booked now for after Brexit what would happen?
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28-10-2018, 09:02 PM
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If Italy forces the EU into reforming its approach then yes it will affect Brexit. Most people who voted leave for informed reasons did so because they do not agree with the pace of integration and top down control by an undemocratic centre. Were the crisis in Italy to force that to change then Brexit could be reversed.

It is definitely time for the EU to have a good look at itself. Go back to basics of why it was formed and have a long hard look at the Euro.
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28-10-2018, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
If Italy forces the EU into reforming its approach then yes it will affect Brexit. Most people who voted leave for informed reasons did so because they do not agree with the pace of integration and top down control by an undemocratic centre. Were the crisis in Italy to force that to change then Brexit could be reversed.

It is definitely time for the EU to have a good look at itself. Go back to basics of why it was formed and have a long hard look at the Euro.
That will never happen.

17.4 million Brits agree with me on that.

You are one of those many people that knows full well the faults and problems with the EU and yet holds on to the myth that the EU is some wonderful, democratic, progressive force for good when the reality is it is none of those things.
You're like a child who found out that Santa doesn't really exist and doesn't want to acknowledge that.
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28-10-2018, 09:22 PM
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That will never happen.

17.4 million Brits agree with me on that.

You are one of those many people that knows full well the faults and problems with the EU and yet holds on to the myth that the EU is some wonderful, democratic, progressive force for good when the reality is it is none of those things.
You're like a child who found out that Santa doesn't really exist and doesn't want to acknowledge that.
I believe that any alternative to the EU would cause chaos and decline where we have had order and prosperity. We should be in there influencing change instead of flouncing.

It has never been more important for Europe to be united. The human world feels on the verge of consuming itself. Perhaps it's inevitable that this will happen. We seem incapable of living peacefully for any length of time.
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28-10-2018, 11:40 PM
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Not picking Annie, but when you say 'order and prosperity', what are you referring to ?
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29-10-2018, 12:02 AM
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Not picking Annie, but when you say 'order and prosperity', what are you referring to ?
The opposite of war and poverty. We have organised systems which create a safe and legal environment for business dealings. You only have to look at various countries around the world where political coups and civil war frequently reduce all they have built up economically to zilch. Companies invest and get their fingers burnt badly. If you study strategic finance you will find out how important political stability and a legal framework is to creating long term prosperity and growth. Prior to the EU Europe constantly had to clean up and rebuild following one conflict after another. It stalled progress immensely.

The UK was not previously affected due to the nature of war, but now being an island is far less of a protection.
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29-10-2018, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
If Italy forces the EU into reforming
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29-10-2018, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
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The UK was not previously affected due to the nature of war, but now being an island is far less of a protection.
I am a bit hesitant to bring it up. England was of course involved in many an european war, due to the family ties between monarchs. France had obviously severed these ties, hence the animosity between france and many english.
At the start of WWii our queen fled to her family in England (our then queen mother was related to your queen Victoria).
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29-10-2018, 12:18 AM
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Involved yes but invasions were unusual. Of course all the monarchs were and still are related.
 
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