28-11-2015, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Nom
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Interesting responses, i wonder what the people of Syria want from the rest of the world.
I would imagine the majority as with any other human would want to live a peaceful life in their own country.
28-11-2015, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Meg
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Exactly Steve and lets start with the oil shall we. Cut off the oil ISIS is selling for starters.
I am sure you will remember the first gulf war in 1991 and Sadam setting fire to the oil wells in Kuwait, I am sure we could do something similar to ISIS.
Apparently millions of pounds have been donated to ISIS from 'benefactors', who are they and how can we hit them the hardest ...
I'm pretty sure the U.S knows all about this too so for me, stopping the flow of ISIS Oil and incoming money and arms would be far better than destroying some of Iraq's much-needed oil assets which is still in "enemy" hands. stevmk2
28-11-2015, 04:50 PM
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I never fail to be surprised at how there are so many posters on these geo-political problem threads who think they know better than the combined heads of state of European and other great western nations put together.I am also surprised that you all consider your naive speculative propositions to be new, important and never before thought of or considered by even the dumbest of politicians involved in trying to find practical solutions.
There is always a 'greater global picture' to be considered before any decisions are made or any actions taken.
Conserving and protecting the western nations' status quo is never a simple matter.
28-11-2015, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by malcolm
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I never fail to be surprised at how there are so many posters on these geo-political problem threads who think they know better than the combined heads of state of European and other great western nations put together.I am also surprised that you all consider your naive speculative propositions to be new, important and never before thought of or considered by even the dumbest of politicians involved in trying to find practical solutions.
There is always a 'greater global picture' to be considered before any decisions are made or any actions taken.
Conserving and protecting the western nations' status quo is never a simple matter.
. It is fun and informative (sometimes) for us armchair pseudo-intellectuals to voice our opinion. To vegetate is the kiss of death to me - stimulation is the name of the game with regard to us old fogies.
28-11-2015, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by malcolm
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I never fail to be surprised at how there are so many posters on these geo-political problem threads who think they know better than the combined heads of state of European and other great western nations put together.I am also surprised that you all consider your naive speculative propositions to be new, important and never before thought of or considered by even the dumbest of politicians involved in trying to find practical solutions.
There is always a 'greater global picture' to be considered before any decisions are made or any actions taken.
Conserving and protecting the western nations' status quo is never a simple matter.
Now you're teasing us aren't you?How could we do a worse job with our puny speculations as we sip our cocoa?
I've just read France, now gung-ho and determined to smash ISIS have mooted the possibility of working closer with the Syrian regime.
Syrian troops could be used to help fight Isis, France's foreign minister says ..
“Troops on the ground cannot be ours, but [there can be] Syrian soldiers from the Free Syrian Army, Sunni Arab states, and why not regime troops
without the Syrian president,
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ted-says-putin
Erm ... good luck with that very workable sounding suggestion Mr Fabius.
28-11-2015, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by malcolm
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I never fail to be surprised at how there are so many posters on these geo-political problem threads who think they know better than the combined heads of state of European and other great western nations put together.
There is always a 'greater global picture' to be considered before any decisions are made or any actions taken.
Conserving and protecting the western nations' status quo is never a simple matter.
28-11-2015, 06:40 PM
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No we shouldnt go in to Syria,the west has done enough damage in the middle east, its because we have meddled that we are having terrorists attacks now, there will always be conflict out there due to religious parties warring with each other,Isis blames western states for what they have done, more British born Muslims are leaving to join them, feeling they are unwanted here. How can we decide who is right/wrong for the people who live there.? We had attacks by the IRA but we kept cool and a solution was found.We had five long years of war in the 40's, sure that we would destroy the nazis, now they are gathering again. I know Countries pledge to help each other if they are attacked,and what happened in Paris was dreadful,but must we always feel we must meddle in another Country28-11-2015, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by malcolm
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I don't give a damn if every Arab kills his brother Arab but I do mind very much indeed when they kill us.
More than once, the former head of MI5 emphasised to the Chilcot inquiry that the invasion exacerbated the terrorist threat to the UK and was a "highly significant" factor in how "home-grown" extremists justified their actions.
"Our involvement in Iraq radicalised a few among a generation of young people who saw [it] as an attack upon Islam," she said.
Manningham-Buller said she was therefore not surprised that UK citizens were involved in the 7/7 suicide attacks in London or by the increase in the number of Britons "attracted to the ideology of Osama bin Laden" who saw the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan as threatening their co-religionists and the Muslim world".
The invasion of Iraq "undoubtedly" increased the terrorist threat in Britain, she said.
Originally Posted by Malcolm
say act now and give them everything we have in the way of organised and disciplined warfare and do not stop until the threat has been eliminated and all the murderers are gone.
You can't talk about 'disciplined warfare' this is like no other war we have faced.
28-11-2015, 06:49 PM
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Bomb Syria and they will move somewhere else, and it will go on and on.You can't get this type of terrorist around the table because they are not the negotiating type.
Just keep our own country safe, by more police and forces here and let them sort their own countries out.
28-11-2015, 06:56 PM
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I have to say, I agree with Malcolm!I am also, finding some of the posts in various threads here and on other sites, quite scaremongering. Some crying out to 'nuke them' and worse! If I took notice of everything written, I would just give up living and never leave my house again. I might sound naive and have my head stuck in the sand but I am not going to worry about anything until it happens.
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