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Originally Posted by Omah ->
Erm ..... On 24 July 2019, Cummings was appointed as Chief Adviser to Prime Minister Boris Johnson, a new position created by Johnson, to replace the role of Downing Street Chief of Staff.
But you havent answered my questions Omah??
Or are you just reassuring me that Cummins will really be
changing the system and not only the guard ??

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But you havent answered my questions Omah??
Or are you just reassuring me that Cummins will really be
changing the system and not only the guard ??

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You may not have read all of my post - Cummings is part of the system - he is a civil servant, part of a team of 8 which is politically motivated, not independent (or even, probably, experienced) - it's the American way .....
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You may not have read all of my post - Cummings is part of the system - he is a civil servant, part of a team of 8 which is politically motivated, not independent (or even, probably, experienced) - it's the American way .....
But recently there was some debate about Cummins Omah and
the consensus seemedmto be he was not a civil servant but an
apointee who worked directly for Boris! And as such was not
payed directly by the state, and was not subject to the civil service
pension scheme or other civil service benefits??
Has that changed now he has been mooted to fill the shoes of
sir whatsit who resigned last week??
Funny how they are all SIRS aint it??

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10-07-2020, 03:29 PM
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But recently there was some debate about Cummins Omah and
the consensus seemedmto be he was not a civil servant but an
apointee who worked directly for Boris! And as such was not
payed directly by the state, and was not subject to the civil service
pension scheme or other civil service benefits??
Has that changed now he has been mooted to fill the shoes of
sir whatsit who resigned last week??
Funny how they are all SIRS aint it??

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Exactly so. Cummings is NOT a civil servant.
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10-07-2020, 03:43 PM
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When someone in a high level "normal" job resigns, he or she is normally put on gardening leave. Why are these top Civil Servants being allowed to carry on in their positions now they've resigned but are free to do as much damage as they see fit? I believe they should be made to hand in any passes they might have, pack up any personal possessions they may have in their offices and then be escorted straight off the premises.
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10-07-2020, 03:53 PM
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Re: Another civil servant retires!!

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Another top civil servant stands down?
SIR Richard Heighton who worked for the justice dept has
chosen early retire ment to serving under the brexit government??
It seems that these wasters prefer to accept a golden handshake
to serving out their time?
Cummings seem to be progressing well in his efforts to transform
our hidebound institutions by bribing the top dogs to get out before
he has to throw them out, which probably saves a lot of trouble??

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Another one that need to be kicked screaming down the road is Jim Harra, top man of the HMRC for daring to challenge The Chancelor Of The Exchequer ...what an arsehole!
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10-07-2020, 04:11 PM
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Re: Another civil servant retires!!

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But recently there was some debate about Cummins Omah and the consensus seemed mto be he was not a civil servant but an apointee who worked directly for Boris! And as such was not payed directly by the state, and was not subject to the civil service pension scheme or other civil service benefits??
Has that changed now he has been mooted to fill the shoes of sir whatsit who resigned last week??

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Well, you've agreed that he's an "appointee" - no job application needed .....

As for his salary, I have yet to see evidence that Boris pays him .....

OTOH:

Who pays Dominic Cummings?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...ages-tax-payer

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10-07-2020, 04:26 PM
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Re: Another civil servant retires!!

Originally Posted by Omah ->
Well, you've agreed that he's an "appointee" - no job application needed .....

As for his salary, I have yet to see evidence that Boris pays him .....

OTOH:

Who pays Dominic Cummings?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...ages-tax-payer

Tue, May 26, 2020
Cummings is paid as an advisor as part of the staff BoJo is entitled to and despite what is written in the Express is not a special advisor under the normal use of the term.
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10-07-2020, 05:14 PM
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Re: Another civil servant retires!!

Originally Posted by Omah ->
Well, you've agreed that he's an "appointee" - no job application needed .....

As for his salary, I have yet to see evidence that Boris pays him .....

OTOH:

Who pays Dominic Cummings?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/12...ages-tax-payer

Tue, May 26, 2020
Thanks for the link Omah!
So they class Cummins as a tempory civil servant?
Is there such a class of civil servant? or is that just the express
newspaper definition, it is not entirely clear about that??
It does clear up the fact that his salary comes from the taxpayer,
which could be expected l think?however that does'nt mean he is on
the civil service payroll ??Ptobably his money comes from the PMs
staff allowance?
It does seem a little extravagant to me but then all that lot seem
that way to me!!

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10-07-2020, 05:25 PM
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Thanks for the link Omah!
So they class Cummins as a tempory civil servant?
Is there such a class of civil servant? or is that just the express
newspaper definition, it is not entirely clear about that??
It does clear up the fact that his salary comes from the taxpayer,
which could be expected l think?however that does'nt mean he is on
the civil service payroll ??Ptobably his money comes from the PMs
staff allowance?
It does seem a little extravagant to me but then all that lot seem
that way to me!!

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Almost anyone can be a temporary civil servant and I have been employed in that capacity by the DWP and the Insolvency Service, as have thousands of others. In fact, I think the policy nowadays is to employ most civil servants on short-term contacts.
 
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