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He is doing okay elswhere, still the same.

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Good to hear.. We were as far apart politically as possible, but I liked him and took much of what he said with a large pinch of salt.

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Communists ? Who are they ? I'm a Separatist myself.

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People can play the "human rights" card as long as they wish, but the fact remains that many of these people at Calais are not fleeing war torn countries, many of them are leaving their own countries in the hope of being given free money in UK, many no doubt are criminals, but they have all managed to find their way to Calais and now I read that 70% of them are getting there too. I have no doubt that many of them are uneducated or very poorly educated, and no I´m not talking about the doctors, teachers and other professional people who come to claim asylum, somehow or other I very much doubt they are among the rabble (sorry if the word upsets you) causing havoc and threatening lives and livelihoods at Calais port. Cameron says they come because there are jobs ! What jobs? What jobs are available for uneducated people, many of whom have never even lived in a house with plumbing and electricity and whose idea of going to the toilet is to squat in any convenient place.

Of course we all feel sorry for them, but then we feel sorry for many people in places such as Africa and India, to mention only two, who still live in abject poverty but over the years despite billions of pounds being given for various projects, what has changed? Nothing, and it won´t.

Where are all these immigrants going to go when they reach the UK? My guess is London, they all know about London wherever you go in the world.
I´m no politician but I have travelled in some of these countries and I have lived in East Africa and I have been in many African villages and townships and I do know that the majority of poor people want nothing more than to go to England where they have heard life is good and they will be given everything they want. I think England should be very afraid right now unless some drastic action is taken.

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Loretta, you've said everything I think and feel. I was going to say you speak for a lot of people but then there will be someone here jumping up and accusing me of speaking for them!

My part of London has changed dramatically and not to my liking. We have people urinating in our communal gardens in full view of anyone walking past, using our bin shed area as a toilet, coming in to raid our bins of anything of value 'any metal?' is what is asked.

I walk down my market (the longest street market in Europe) and struggle to hear English spoken. They don't know how to queue at bus stops. I hear TB is prevalent in a part of East London where there is a high Asian population.

When I see these people tearing down fences, climbing into lorries of whatever make or description, and spoiling food intended for our shops, threatening police, lorry drivers or anyone in authority, brandishing missiles, knives, or other weapons, saying we want to go to England because you will give us jobs, money, houses, you English are nice people, or even saying it's their RIGHT to settle in England...do I want them in my country, or living next door to me?

NO I DAMN WELL DO NOT!!

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I feel for you Jazzi, truly I do, it must be quite scary for you. The plain fact is that they all want to get to UK because of the "free everything" for them, including being given money. Of course they have hard lives in their own countries but like it used to be, probably still is, in the UK, the young people don´t want to stay in their villages tending cows and goats, growing vegetables etc, they want everything they see people in countries like UK have. They want designer clothes, the latest phones etc and they think they will get all this in UK without having to do anything. African extended families will hold harambees, sort of parties where they all give money for a specific reason, i.e money for someone to get to UK in the hope that that someone will then be sending them money back every week, or month.

The ones who leave countries on those boats we are always hearing about, well they must have money to pay the traffickers. They land in Italy, or Spain, or wherever, where they will be safe, but do they stay there? No, they then head off to try and get to UK, now just why would that be?

Many of these "immigrants" travel long, long distances under extremely difficult circumstances getting the women pregnant along the way. One man reporters spoke to said it was good to get the women pregnant because "who can refuse entry to a pregnant woman or a woman with small children".

I guess the majority of people who speak about the plight of these poor people, the humanity side of it, etc etc, are those who know the immigrants will not be going to live near them in large numbers forming their own societies and their own ways of life. I´m as humanitarian as anyone else, I am not racist, I´m just a normal person who wouldn´t wish harm to anyone, but I can see that if UK lets in any more of these immigrants UK is going to become an even more lawless and frightening place for many people than it is now.
Only a few weeks ago a friend of ours who lives in Wakefield and who works shifts told us he is getting afraid to drive to work late at night these days. Not long ago he was driving to work when a gang of "immigrants" blocked the road and demanded money from him, on the wall at the side of the road was painted in big white letters "Whites get your passports out".

I freely admit that I would be scared to live in any city in England. I don´t know what is going to happen re this Calais business but I think it´s very scary that so many have got into UK, they will never find them, all in all it´s a frightening situation.

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Last week I tried to stop two EEs last week coming in to our bin shed area. One slipped in past the side open gate while his companion, a huge burly thing, just continued to walk towards me and my outward palm as if I weren't there, which I found intimidating. I said 'go away please, you're not allowed here .'

'No metal?' Is all I got. They looked, and off they went. With their mob rule and lack of understanding (no you know enough!!) they treat you as if you weren't there, because they are determined to rake through all your rubbish for something to sell.

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I have always argued for support of asylum seekers (half my extended family came her like that) but this is not what we are seeing now. I do feel very much for the children but if people cannot abide by the rules to enter the country what hope is there they will abide by our laws if they get in ??

I do think we need to send the army in to man these border posts, and make it safe for the lorries and coaches it is very unfair they are being left to fend for themselves in this dangerous situation.

We also need to address safety in their own countries and find a way as part of the rest of the world to make it better they return home peacefully and stop this madness.

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Julie1962,
Absolutely agree with all you say. Unfortunately I doubt if the army will be allowed to do it though.

Arthur