14-01-2019, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by marmaduke
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https://youtu.be/eqD7DOeqS8U
14-01-2019, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by marmaduke
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The greatest liar of our time Tony bliar himself once said we will have a referendum then changed the name of a treaty and signed it saying it was only an amendment .... however when asked years later why he wouldn’t hold one he admitted because he believed we would vote to leave ... and that was back then !!!! Brexit has been a long time coming and even now after parliament itself voted and said ‘ let the people decide in a once and for all referendum since it is too great a problem for parliament to decide and the people should vote and we will act upon the decision ‘ ..... now they change it so only parliament can decide after all !!!!!!!!!!! And we all know whatever the result tomorrow that we won’t leave , what was it two years ago ? NO DEAL IS BETTER THAN A BAD DEAL ? Today it’s ‘we will stop brexit if no deal....I’d happily shoot the lot of them as they are nothing but a bunch of elitist self serving liars
15-01-2019, 08:16 AM
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Let’s take a quick look at Germany and the eurozone todayStorm clouds darken as Europe and China falter
https://dailym.ai/2HbSL71
Industrial production in the single currency bloc was 1.7 per cent lower in November than it had been the previous month, sparking concerns of a slowdown on the Continent.
A report by Bank of America Merrill Lynch warned that Germany is already in recession.
Bert Colijn, of Dutch bank ING, said: 'Fears of a technical recession in large eurozone economies are mounting as industrial production in November provided a harsh reality check for economists.
'Surveys have been dismal throughout the quarter, and actual production data is now confirming that bleak view on the eurozone economy.'
The biggest fears are for Germany, whose economy shrank by 0.2 per cent in the three months to September 2018.
Analysts at Bank of America Merrill Lynch believe output fell 0.1 per cent in the fourth quarter – meaning Germany is in recession.
Germany is the powerhouse of the single currency bloc, but is heavily reliant on exports by its manufacturers and therefore at risk if global trade falls.
Italy is also seen as highly exposed, with an economy which was flat with no growth in the third quarter.
So is staying really the best option ? When a ship is sinking it’s best to leave it and look elsewhere !
15-01-2019, 02:03 PM
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So I’m guessing with us gone and Germany ruling Europe that they will be needing to turn things around what with Angela’s new guests to feed and their lies and deception in the car industry no wonder Germany would like us to stay since once tariffs are applied here to BMW PORSCHE VW AUDI MERCEDES I imagine they will take a bigger dip in sales and the EU will be ordering more cash from GermanyGerman economic growth slowest for five years http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46875113
Figures from the Federal Statistics Office showed Europe's largest economy slowed sharply as the year wore on.
A weaker global economy and problems in the car industry, caused by new pollution standards, have been cited as contributing to the slowdown.
At the start of 2018, the German economy had been expected to grow by 1.8%. Growth was 2.2% in 2017.
Germany's economy had shrunk in the third quarter of the year, by 0.2%, with global trade disputes blamed for the contraction.
There were fears that Germany was at risk of following that with another quarter of negative growth, something that would have put the country into recession.
The statistics office has not released fourth-quarter figures yet, as it does not have enough data to give an accurate reading.
But initial calculations by independent economists suggest the economy may have grown by about 0.2% in the final three months of the year.
15-01-2019, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by marmaduke
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So I’m guessing with us gone and Germany ruling Europe that they will be needing to turn things around what with Angela’s new guests to feed and their lies and deception in the car industry no wonder Germany would like us to stay since once tariffs are applied here to BMW PORSCHE VW AUDI MERCEDES I imagine they will take a bigger dip in sales and the EU will be ordering more cash from Germany German economic growth slowest for five years http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46875113
Figures from the Federal Statistics Office showed Europe's largest economy slowed sharply as the year wore on.
A weaker global economy and problems in the car industry, caused by new pollution standards, have been cited as contributing to the slowdown.
At the start of 2018, the German economy had been expected to grow by 1.8%. Growth was 2.2% in 2017.
Germany's economy had shrunk in the third quarter of the year, by 0.2%, with global trade disputes blamed for the contraction.
There were fears that Germany was at risk of following that with another quarter of negative growth, something that would have put the country into recession.
The statistics office has not released fourth-quarter figures yet, as it does not have enough data to give an accurate reading.
But initial calculations by independent economists suggest the economy may have grown by about 0.2% in the final three months of the year.
Another really big threat not just to the German Banks, but all the Eurozone banks is the Yellow Vest movement.
The movement is planning a run on the French banks which will most likely cause all manner of problems causing a knock-on effect to the (already Fragile - look at Deutsche Bank) German banks. When this happens, the only solution for the Germans would be to start calling in the debts from Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy etc resulting in all manner of problems for the Euro and (even more) mass austerity in the EU. It could even as a worst case, cause the Euro to collapse.
What people don't see is Macron now firing on his own people in France, point blank range rubber bullets into protesters and tear gas. The injuries are horrendous ... but you won't see this in the mainstream media because Macron is keeping a news blackout on it.
Here we see once again, high functioning countries being destroyed by socialism as Germany and the Eurozone starts to go into recession again
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...s-macron-loses
15-01-2019, 02:53 PM
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I think immigration was actually a small part of why most leavers voted. Personally I don't see any merit or benefit it a big federal state, I like smaller individual countries, all with their own personalities all minding their own business not trying to change each other.I want a proper elected government, we will have to work on that one as ours is broken. But the principle of democracy is what I love I cannot get behind an unelected body at all.
15-01-2019, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Julie1962
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I think immigration was actually a small part of why most leavers voted. Personally I don't see any merit or benefit it a big federal state, I like smaller individual countries, all with their own personalities all minding their own business not trying to change each other. I want a proper elected government, we will have to work on that one as ours is broken. But the principle of democracy is what I love I cannot get behind an unelected body at all.
I was thinking about the withdrawal bill earlier and what occurred to me is that there are a lot of remainers voting against it because they do not believe the EU are good to their word with regards to avoiding the backstop.
So ... some remainers don't trust the EU but still want to be part of it .... there's a turn up for the books.
15-01-2019, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread
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I think you're right, Julie. Nobody wants to be a faceless region of Europe taking orders from unelected bureaucrats in a different country. I was thinking about the withdrawal bill earlier and what occurred to me is that there are a lot of remainers voting against it because they do not believe the EU are good to their word with regards to avoiding the backstop.
So ... some remainers don't trust the EU but still want to be part of it .... there's a turn up for the books.
15-01-2019, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread
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Another really big threat not just to the German Banks, but all the Eurozone banks is the Yellow Vest movement.The movement is planning a run on the French banks which will most likely cause all manner of problems causing a knock-on effect to the (already Fragile - look at Deutsche Bank) German banks. When this happens, the only solution for the Germans would be to start calling in the debts from Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy etc resulting in all manner of problems for the Euro and (even more) mass austerity in the EU. It could even as a worst case, cause the Euro to collapse.
What people don't see is Macron now firing on his own people in France, point blank range rubber bullets into protesters and tear gas. The injuries are horrendous ... but you won't see this in the mainstream media because Macron is keeping a news blackout on it.
Here we see once again, high functioning countries being destroyed by socialism as Germany and the Eurozone starts to go into recession again
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...s-macron-loses
15-01-2019, 03:51 PM
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Re: A German Point Of View
Originally Posted by Bread
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I think you're right, Julie. Nobody wants to be a faceless region of Europe taking orders from unelected bureaucrats in a different country. I was thinking about the withdrawal bill earlier and what occurred to me is that there are a lot of remainers voting against it because they do not believe the EU are good to their word with regards to avoiding the backstop.
So ... some remainers don't trust the EU but still want to be part of it .... there's a turn up for the books.
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