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03-12-2019, 09:34 PM
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No, Britain stopped being an empire because it returned the countries it was occupying.
Then why not return the chagos islands and the others on the list of the united nations?
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03-12-2019, 10:27 PM
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Then why not return the chagos islands and the others on the list of the united nations?
Why should we ? Are you going to extend your outrage to Spain's territories of Ceuta and Malila ?

I take you agree with me about the EU Empire then
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04-12-2019, 12:05 AM
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I just wish Brits would rise up and demand a more democratic system in our own Parliamentary system.

Once we leave EU, letís not stop there - letís get rid of unelected Lords AND demand Proportional Representation in the House of Commons, instead of the FIrst Past The Post system we have had thrust upon us by those who seek to control us.

Generally speaking, British voters are pretty pathetic when it comes to accepting the choices dished out by the two main parties, voting for one until they push their luck too far or their incompetence can no longer be ignored, then the other party gets a term or two until they take things too far the other way, and so it goes on, like the monotonous never-ending swing of a pendulum.

Tick Tock, nothing will change under this system.
The best thing about leaving EU is that successive UK Governments will no longer be able to hide behind EU regulations for their own inept government and decisions.
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04-12-2019, 12:22 AM
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I just wish Brits would rise up and demand a more democratic system in our own Parliamentary system.

Once we leave EU, letís not stop there - letís get rid of unelected Lords AND demand Proportional Representation in the House of Commons, instead of the FIrst Past The Post system we have had thrust upon us by those who seek to control us.

Generally speaking, British voters are pretty pathetic when it comes to accepting the choices dished out by the two main parties, voting for one until they push their luck too far or their incompetence can no longer be ignored, then the other party gets a term or two until they take things too far the other way, and so it goes on, like the monotonous never-ending swing of a pendulum.

Tick Tock, nothing will change under this system.
The best thing about leaving EU is that successive UK Governments will no longer be able to hide behind EU regulations for their own inept government and decisions.

Yep couldn't agree more
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04-12-2019, 12:23 AM
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Re: First Day ...

Originally Posted by Boot ->
I just wish Brits would rise up and demand a more democratic system in our own Parliamentary system.

Once we leave EU, letís not stop there - letís get rid of unelected Lords AND demand Proportional Representation in the House of Commons, instead of the FIrst Past The Post system we have had thrust upon us by those who seek to control us.

Generally speaking, British voters are pretty pathetic when it comes to accepting the choices dished out by the two main parties, voting for one until they push their luck too far or their incompetence can no longer be ignored, then the other party gets a term or two until they take things too far the other way, and so it goes on, like the monotonous never-ending swing of a pendulum.

Tick Tock, nothing will change under this system.
The best thing about leaving EU is that successive UK Governments will no longer be able to hide behind EU regulations for their own inept government and decisions.
I couldn't agree more.

I believe that Nigel Farage has said that, in a position to do so, he'd discontinue the existence of the Lords in its present form, and specified that it should be replaced by a smaller, elected body.

Of course, whether his Brexit Party / Reform Party will ever be in such a position in the future depends entirely upon us, the voters.
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04-12-2019, 12:34 PM
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Re: First Day ...

Originally Posted by Boot ->
I just wish Brits would rise up and demand a more democratic system in our own Parliamentary system.

Once we leave EU, letís not stop there - letís get rid of unelected Lords AND demand Proportional Representation in the House of Commons, instead of the FIrst Past The Post system we have had thrust upon us by those who seek to control us.

Generally speaking, British voters are pretty pathetic when it comes to accepting the choices dished out by the two main parties, voting for one until they push their luck too far or their incompetence can no longer be ignored, then the other party gets a term or two until they take things too far the other way, and so it goes on, like the monotonous never-ending swing of a pendulum.

Tick Tock, nothing will change under this system.
The best thing about leaving EU is that successive UK Governments will no longer be able to hide behind EU regulations for their own inept government and decisions.
Thats exactly what l hoped would happen Boot, but, alas, that does
not seem possible now as the brexit partyj has been culled?
The best we can hope for is a co-operation between Boris and Nigel,
with Nigel supplying the tories with the majority vote in POSHOC!
Regards Donkeyman!
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04-12-2019, 02:20 PM
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I couldn't agree more.

I believe that Nigel Farage has said that, in a position to do so, he'd discontinue the existence of the Lords in its present form, and specified that it should be replaced by a smaller, elected body.

Of course, whether his Brexit Party / Reform Party will ever be in such a position in the future depends entirely upon us, the voters.
If britain had proportional representation nigel farage would have wiped out the other parties, and he would be the next pm. Future would have been bright.
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04-12-2019, 03:08 PM
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Why should we ? Are you going to extend your outrage to Spain's territories of Ceuta and Malila ?
Yes, and to anguilla, bermuda, british indian territory, british virgin islands, cayman islands, falkland islands, gibraltar, monserrat, pitcairn, henderson, ducie and oeno islands, saint helena, ascension and tristan da cunha, turks and caicos islands, south georgia and south sandwich islands
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04-12-2019, 03:18 PM
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Yes, and to anguilla, bermuda, british indian territory, british virgin islands, cayman islands, falkland islands, gibraltar, monserrat, pitcairn, henderson, ducie and oeno islands, saint helena, ascension and tristan da cunha, turks and caicos islands, south georgia and south sandwich islands
Good luck

you're going to need it
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04-12-2019, 10:55 PM
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Re: First Day ...

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Yes, and to anguilla, bermuda, british indian territory, british virgin islands, cayman islands, falkland islands, gibraltar, monserrat, pitcairn, henderson, ducie and oeno islands, saint helena, ascension and tristan da cunha, turks and caicos islands, south georgia and south sandwich islands

Have they expressed a desire to disassociate themselves from the UK, the Falklands certainly haven't.
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