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01-12-2019, 10:33 AM
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It's the first day of the new EU commission today...

1 president appointed
3 executive vice presidents ...
5 vice presidents
18 commissioners

You didn't vote for any if these people and none of us can vote them out.

Most of them German under a german leader

All appointed on secret ballots (except Dear Leader)

Happy Sunday everybody!
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01-12-2019, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread ->
It's the first day of the new EU commission today...

1 president appointed
3 executive vice presidents ...
5 vice presidents
18 commissioners

You didn't vote for any if these people and none of us can vote them out.

Most of them German under a german leader

All appointed on secret ballots (except Dear Leader)

Happy Sunday everybody!
Terribly undemocratic!

Eh, how many members has your house of lords? You can vote them out of course? Or are you just as undemocratic?
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01-12-2019, 03:41 PM
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Terribly undemocratic!

Eh, how many members has your house of lords? You can vote them out of course? Or are you just as undemocratic?
The house of lords is an advisory,/ referral body, the EU commission is not.

In our country we have a choice - in the EU you do not. You get what you are given and you can't get rid of them.

One of the many reasons we are leaving - something else we have a choice in.
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01-12-2019, 04:29 PM
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Re: First Day ...

Originally Posted by Bread ->
It's the first day of the new EU commission today...

1 president appointed
3 executive vice presidents ...
5 vice presidents
18 commissioners

You didn't vote for any if these people and none of us can vote them out.

Most of them German under a german leader

All appointed on secret ballots (except Dear Leader)

Happy Sunday everybody!
It's started! History does tend to repeat itself.
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01-12-2019, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JBR ->
It's started! History does tend to repeat itself.
It does. But starting in another country. Don't know what I mean? Take a look in the mirror!
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01-12-2019, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
Terribly undemocratic!

Eh, how many members has your house of lords? You can vote them out of course? Or are you just as undemocratic?
Our elected representatives can just abolish the HOL once we get
really pissed off with them Solly or we can have another so called
peoples vote!
What are the structures in the EU to remove your lot other than
a revolution??
Donkeyman!
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01-12-2019, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread ->
The house of lords is an advisory,/ referral body, the EU commission is not.
You conflate it with the american situation. In the UK it is:

The House of Lords scrutinises*bills*that have been approved by the House of Commons.[9]*It regularly reviews and amends Bills from the Commons.[10]*While it is unable to prevent Bills passing into law, except in certain limited circumstances,[11]*it can delay Bills and force the Commons to reconsider their decisions.[12]*In this capacity, the House of Lords acts as a check on the House of Commons that is independent from the electoral process.[13][14][15]*Bills can be introduced into either the House of Lords or the House of Commons. While members of the Lords may also take on roles as government ministers, high-ranking officials such as cabinet ministers are usually drawn from the Commons.
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01-12-2019, 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Our elected representatives can just abolish the HOL once we get
really pissed off with them Solly or we can have another so called
peoples vote!
What are the structures in the EU to remove your lot other than
a revolution??
Donkeyman!
Didn't you vote in last may's european election for farage? Missed opportunity I would say.
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02-12-2019, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
You conflate it with the american situation. In the UK it is:

The House of Lords scrutinises*bills*that have been approved by the House of Commons.[9]*It regularly reviews and amends Bills from the Commons.[10]*While it is unable to prevent Bills passing into law, except in certain limited circumstances,[11]*it can delay Bills and force the Commons to reconsider their decisions.[12]*In this capacity, the House of Lords acts as a check on the House of Commons that is independent from the electoral process.[13][14][15]*Bills can be introduced into either the House of Lords or the House of Commons. While members of the Lords may also take on roles as government ministers, high-ranking officials such as cabinet ministers are usually drawn from the Commons.

You're agreeing with me.
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02-12-2019, 09:28 AM
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Thank heavens we are leaving....we are aren't we?

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