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05-09-2020, 08:18 PM
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Erdogan brings out the tanks??

Has Turkeys president developed a hitler complex?
Video was shown on aljerzera of large numbers of tanks being
transported to the greek border !!
He was reported as saying Turkey has the economic and military
might to tear up any existing maps that he considers to have
been drawn illegally and that are to Turkeys disadvantage ??
It seems that he has been slowly getting more and more
pugnacious since siezing power, has he lost it completely now ??
This is exactly how Hitler caused WW2!!

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05-09-2020, 08:42 PM
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Re: Erdogan brings out the tanks??

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Has Turkeys president developed a hitler complex?
Video was shown on aljerzera of large numbers of tanks being
transported to the greek border !!
He was reported as saying Turkey has the economic and military
might to tear up any existing maps that he considers to have
been drawn illegally and that are to Turkeys disadvantage ??
It seems that he has been slowly getting more and more
pugnacious since siezing power, has he lost it completely now ??
This is exactly how Hitler caused WW2!!

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He's a dictator. Nothing more, nothing less. He's attempting to claim back the territories that were lost from the Ottoman Empire when the Empire was carved up by the Allies and create a Muslim Caliphate with him at the head.

A good part of the Ottoman's territory was Greece who, when given back their ancestral homelands, drove the Turks out who then proceeded to carry out a slash and burn retreat back to the Turkish border. No wonder they hate each other.

Ataturk (creator of modern Turkey) instigated a peace process and changed Turkish society to a Western model. That model has been a great success over the years but is now being eroded by an Islamist fanatic who wants to go back to Islamic principles, introducing Sharia and treating women as second class citizens.
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05-09-2020, 09:05 PM
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Re: Erdogan brings out the tanks??

Originally Posted by Judd ->
He's a dictator. Nothing more, nothing less. He's attempting to claim back the territories that were lost from the Ottoman Empire when the Empire was carved up by the Allies and create a Muslim Caliphate with him at the head.

A good part of the Ottoman's territory was Greece who, when given back their ancestral homelands, drove the Turks out who then proceeded to carry out a slash and burn retreat back to the Turkish border. No wonder they hate each other.

Ataturk (creator of modern Turkey) instigated a peace process and changed Turkish society to a Western model. That model has been a great success over the years but is now being eroded by an Islamist fanatic who wants to go back to Islamic principles, introducing Sharia and treating women as second class citizens.
Totally agree.
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05-09-2020, 09:14 PM
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Re: Erdogan brings out the tanks??

Originally Posted by Judd ->
He's a dictator. Nothing more, nothing less. He's attempting to claim back the territories that were lost from the Ottoman Empire when the Empire was carved up by the Allies and create a Muslim Caliphate with him at the head.

A good part of the Ottoman's territory was Greece who, when given back their ancestral homelands, drove the Turks out who then proceeded to carry out a slash and burn retreat back to the Turkish border. No wonder they hate each other.

Ataturk (creator of modern Turkey) instigated a peace process and changed Turkish society to a Western model. That model has been a great success over the years but is now being eroded by an Islamist fanatic who wants to go back to Islamic principles, introducing Sharia and treating women as second class citizens.
Thanks for the history lesson juddy !!
But l married a greek donkeylady and she keeps me up to date on
events in that region !!
I agree with all you say however, and l think something must be
done to disabuse this megalo maniac of his ambitions !
When he seized power he imprisoned thousands of civil servants
that suspected of being opposed to him !
Definitely not a normaly functioning person !!!

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05-09-2020, 09:20 PM
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Re: Erdogan brings out the tanks??

The latest spat is all about oil and gas exploration in the eastern med.
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05-09-2020, 09:28 PM
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Re: Erdogan brings out the tanks??

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Thanks for the history lesson juddy !!
But l married a greek donkeylady and she keeps me up to date on
events in that region !!
I agree with all you say however, and l think something must be
done to disabuse this megalo maniac of his ambitions !
When he seized power he imprisoned thousands of civil servants
that suspected of being opposed to him
!
Definitely not a normaly functioning person !!!

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And newspaper editors, reporters and academics. He wasn't happy with the election result in Istanbul in 2019 because his party had lost the city for the first time in 25 years claiming mail voting fraud so forced another election. He lost that one too with a bigger majority going to the opposition.
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05-09-2020, 09:34 PM
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Re: Erdogan brings out the tanks??

Erdogan is cunning but not very bright. He probably thinks he has his ducks in a row but I don't think that he has. The Armenian Genocide has left a terrible stain that has not healed but if anything has become even more entrenched despite efforts particularly by Erdogan to kick it into the long grass. Then there's the Kurds. Another unresolved and embarrassing matter that is festering on and that's just for starters.

The mindset of people like Erdogan is that demonstrating power earns respect. It's a common trait in the region and it does work. Offering a reconstituted Ottoman Empire will also be a huge attraction for those descendents who feel "they woz robbed" and disgraced so there a really big mess hovering on the horizon.

I just wonder if Erdogan will strike against Israel in order to gain respect from the other ay-rabs he wants to support him.

Then there's the fact that he's a POS.
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05-09-2020, 09:36 PM
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Re: Erdogan brings out the tanks??

Originally Posted by scot37 ->
The latest spat is all about oil and gas exploration in the eastern med.
Totally disagree. It is about power.
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05-09-2020, 09:44 PM
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Re: Erdogan brings out the tanks??

I have just started reading a new book called Erdoğan Rising. A Warning to Europe. It is written by Hannah Lucinda Smith who has spent a lot of time reporting from the area.
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05-09-2020, 09:51 PM
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Re: Erdogan brings out the tanks??

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Erdogan is cunning but not very bright. He probably thinks he has his ducks in a row but I don't think that he has. The Armenian Genocide has left a terrible stain that has not healed but if anything has become even more entrenched despite efforts particularly by Erdogan to kick it into the long grass. Then there's the Kurds. Another unresolved and embarrassing matter that is festering on and that's just for starters.

The mindset of people like Erdogan is that demonstrating power earns respect. It's a common trait in the region and it does work. Offering a reconstituted Ottoman Empire will also be a huge attraction for those descendents who feel "they woz robbed" and disgraced so there a really big mess hovering on the horizon.

I just wonder if Erdogan will strike against Israel in order to gain respect from the other ay-rabs he wants to support him.

Then there's the fact that he's a POS.
The Kurds have a genuine grievance. Their homeland was also carved up at the end of the Ottoman Empire and shared out between Turkey, Syria, and Iraq and Turkey is determined to hang on to their share even though Iraqi Kurdistan has been given autonomy.
 
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