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Originally Posted by ruthio ->
What did Boris say?
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2004/10/bigleys-fate/

Only the truth.

Snip ---- " Liverpool’s failure to acknowledge, even to this day, the part played in the disaster by drunken fans at the back of the crowd who mindlessly tried to fight their way into the ground that Saturday afternoon. The police became a convenient scapegoat, and the Sun newspaper a whipping-boy for daring, albeit in a tasteless fashion, to hint at the wider causes of the incident".
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All his apologies are just damage limitation, insignificant.
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Originally Posted by Cinderella ->
All his apologies are just damage limitation, insignificant.
Well of course they are!

They were what he was told to do!

IMO he was bang on the button but dreadfully politically incorrect.
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05-04-2019, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2004/10/bigleys-fate/

Only the truth.

Snip ---- " Liverpool’s failure to acknowledge, even to this day, the part played in the disaster by drunken fans at the back of the crowd who mindlessly tried to fight their way into the ground that Saturday afternoon. The police became a convenient scapegoat, and the Sun newspaper a whipping-boy for daring, albeit in a tasteless fashion, to hint at the wider causes of the incident".
Bang-on.

Turning up late at the ground, some after drinking, must have contributed to the disaster.

The police officer in charge had to make a snap decision on the spot. If the fans had been kept out, and rioting ensued, then the cops would have been blamed for that, too.
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Established fact that the behaviour of Liverpool supporters at Hillsborough was not a contributory factor in the disaster.
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Originally Posted by Cinderella ->
Established fact that the behaviour of Liverpool supporters at Hillsborough was not a contributory factor in the disaster.
The events at the Heysel Stadium 4 years earlier where Liverpool "fans" charged the Juventus fans resulting in 39 deaths and 600 injuries have still not been forgotten.
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When public servants fail , they must be called to account.
Deflecting blame on fans was despicable. The Hillsborough Independent Panel revealed the reality.
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Originally Posted by scot37 ->
The events at the Heysel Stadium 4 years earlier where Liverpool "fans" charged the Juventus fans resulting in 39 deaths and 600 injuries have still not been forgotten.
https://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2013/...ce-for-heysel/

In 1989, after a five-month trial in Brussels, 14 of the 26 Liverpool supporters who stood trial were found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and given a three-year prison sentence, suspended for 18 months, and each ended up serving about a year in total in behind bars. The remaining ten defendants were acquitted of manslaughter, but some had their £2,000 bail money confiscated, having been absent for part of the trial. And civil damages estimated at more than £5million were provisionally awarded to families of the Heysel victims against the convicted fans and the BFU.
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Originally Posted by Cinderella ->
Established fact that the behaviour of Liverpool supporters at Hillsborough was not a contributory factor in the disaster.
Not quite "established fact" - decision of a tribunal.
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Their exhaustive research led to new inquests. The accidental death verdicts from 1991 were overturned and replaced by unlawful killing.
 
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