11-04-2019, 02:19 PM
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Re: Stitched up again
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiVaradkar is playing a game, he wants to force a United Ireland.
He can get stuffed.
Our Politicians need to step up to the mark.
11-04-2019, 02:37 PM
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Re: Stitched up again
Originally Posted by Solasch
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What is your interest in a divided ireland?
The North has voted to stay part of the UK.
I believe in Democracy, very simple really.
If they voted to leave, that is also fine by me.
What I do not like is blackmail, I will never give in to it.
I am a Catholic by the way, but a Catholic who despises the IRA and any terrorist organisation.
I have picked up too many body parts , a vote is how we change things, not a bomb.
Unless you have been there yourself, you will never understand my absolute loathing of terrorists.
Picking up a babies head gives you a lasting impression.
I do not hate them, hate is an emotion which causes mistakes.
I am quite simply, and ruthlessly out to get them.
They planted a bomb where my kids went, absolutely no morals at all.
They can swan off.
11-04-2019, 02:47 PM
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Re: Stitched up again
Originally Posted by Meg
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We need a new negotiating team, Oliver Robbins should have been removed long ago and hopefully Barnier too now.As we have an enforced stay better to start again and address the backstop properly.
If we had left without an agreement there would have been no hard border between the north and south of Ireland so it is illogical to state with an agreement there must be one.
May has done her best but was ill advised. Labour should be seen for what it is a disrupter with advisors like Seamus Milne who will use Brexit as an opportunity to create chaos, bring down the government and install a left wing marxist government.
12-04-2019, 07:22 AM
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Re: Stitched up again
Originally Posted by swimfeeders
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HiThe North has voted to stay part of the UK.
I believe in Democracy, very simple really.
If they voted to leave, that is also fine by me.
What I do not like is blackmail, I will never give in to it.
I am a Catholic by the way, but a Catholic who despises the IRA and any terrorist organisation.
I have picked up too many body parts , a vote is how we change things, not a bomb.
Unless you have been there yourself, you will never understand my absolute loathing of terrorists.
Picking up a babies head gives you a lasting impression.
I do not hate them, hate is an emotion which causes mistakes.
I am quite simply, and ruthlessly out to get them.
They planted a bomb where my kids went, absolutely no morals at all.
They can swan off.
Such referendum took place in 1921, a lot has changed since then, not least the population - it needs at very least, a fresh referendum.
12-04-2019, 10:22 AM
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Re: Stitched up again
Originally Posted by Bread
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I can see the conservatives walking out of the commons today in disgust.
Unfortunately Bread, the only thing those self-serving MPs walked out on - was for their 11 day holiday to go skiing or to lie on a sandy beach in the sun. This, while this country is going through the biggest constitutional crisis in our history.
They defy belief!
12-04-2019, 10:25 AM
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Re: Stitched up again
Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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sUnfortunately Bread, the only thing those self-serving MPs walked out on - was for their 11 day holiday to go skiing or to lie on a sandy beach in the sun. This, while this country is going through the biggest constitutional crisis in our history.
They defy belief!
At least Bill Cash is still true to his word.
14-04-2019, 05:33 AM
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Re: Stitched up again
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Such referendum took place in 1921, a lot has changed since then, not least the population - it needs at very least, a fresh referendum.
The democratic wishes of the Irish people were ignored. The then British Government capitulated to the threat of "Loyalist" terrorism and, in an act of colossal imperialist arrogance, partitioned the country.
It's another irony of the Brexit debate that most Brexiteers, whilst banging-on about the "17.4m majority", and of being loyal defenders of the Union, choose to ignore the undemocratic shenanigans of 1921/22, plus the fact that Brexit has, if anything, served only to weaken the Union - most Irish people, North & South, don't want it! Plus, the Irish border is back on the political agenda - a gift to Sinn Fein.
14-04-2019, 03:25 PM
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Re: Stitched up again
Originally Posted by OldFogey
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Yes, that's right.The democratic wishes of the Irish people were ignored. The then British Government capitulated to the threat of "Loyalist" terrorism and, in an act of colossal imperialist arrogance, partitioned the country.
It's another irony of the Brexit debate that most Brexiteers, whilst banging-on about the "17.4m majority", and of being loyal defenders of the Union, choose to ignore the undemocratic shenanigans of 1921/22, plus the fact that Brexit has, if anything, served only to weaken the Union - most Irish people, North & South, don't want it! Plus, the Irish border is back on the political agenda - a gift to Sinn Fein.
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