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04-05-2019, 08:45 AM
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So called Palestinians attack Israel AGAIN.

Reports coming in say that up to 60 rockets have been fired principally at Ashkelon and Ashdod by so called "palestinians" from inside of Gaza this morning.

Will Israel respond? Err, that'll be probably.

And who will be presented as the villain of the piece, or should that be peace?

plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
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04-05-2019, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Reports coming in say that up to 60 rockets have been fired principally at Ashkelon and Ashdod by so called "palestinians" from inside of Gaza this morning.

Will Israel respond? Err, that'll be probably.

And who will be presented as the villain of the piece, or should that be peace?

plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
Wherever USA is involved in protecting its so called interests
ie. Stopping communism anywhere, and controlling resouces
where ever they can! there are big problems for the citizens
of those countries!
Israel is only the proxy for the USA in the m!ddle east!
Ergo, trouble!
What more can l say!

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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Wherever USA is involved in protecting its so called interests
ie. Stopping communism anywhere, and controlling resouces
where ever they can! there are big problems for the citizens
of those countries!
Israel is only the proxy for the USA in the m!ddle east!
Ergo, trouble!
What more can l say!

Regards Donkeyman!
I disagree. Israel is not a proxy for the USA, if it were there would not have been the nickel and dime responses to the ongoing attacks from assorted arab states and islamic terrorist groups, instead certain neighbouring states would still be cooling from the heatwave that would have resulted in their weather forecast being 7,000 degrees Kelvin and very cloudy.

But even if Israel WAS a proxy of the USA that is still absolutely no excuse let alone justification for deliberate attacks on purely civilian towns and villages.

What chance is there for peace being established when under Qur'anic dictates Israel MUST be eliminated?
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None whatsoever .
You can't reason with fanatics.
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04-05-2019, 04:43 PM
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Re: So called Palestinians attack Israel AGAIN.

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
I disagree. Israel is not a proxy for the USA, if it were there would not have been the nickel and dime responses to the ongoing attacks from assorted arab states and islamic terrorist groups, instead certain neighbouring states would still be cooling from the heatwave that would have resulted in their weather forecast being 7,000 degrees Kelvin and very cloudy.

But even if Israel WAS a proxy of the USA that is still absolutely no excuse let alone justification for deliberate attacks on purely civilian towns and villages.

What chance is there for peace being established when under Qur'anic dictates Israel MUST be eliminated?
Is creating the largest concentration camp on the planet
not an attack on civillians AT?

Regards Donkeyman!
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Is creating the largest concentration camp on the planet
not an attack on civillians AT?

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If you refer to the Safety Barrier that Israel has had to erect creating a concentration camp when the palests are free to travel to any Arab state that would take (want?) them then I really fail to see any logic let alone justification in such a claim.

Indeed the concentration camp is Israel since it is surrounded by hostiles with only the sea providing a free outlet.

Make no mistake, given half advance the SOB's surrounding Israel would like only one thing better than to drive the Israeli people into the sea and that thing is the mass killing of us.
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05-05-2019, 06:25 AM
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Re: So called Palestinians attack Israel AGAIN.

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Is creating the largest concentration camp on the planet
not an attack on civillians AT?

Regards Donkeyman!

You have fell for the Pallywood story hook line and sinker .
They are sitting on one of the choicest pieces of real estate in the Mediterranean.
They choose to vote in an oppressive terrorist government .
These people have been living on International handouts for seven decades .
If they had to work for themselves and made something of their country instead of these eternal grievances they would not have the time to devote to destroying Israel.
In the face of their continual provocation and intransigence any other neighbour would have pulverised them by now .
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05-05-2019, 07:47 AM
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The number of rocket propelled bombs launched from within Gaza have now exceeded TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY into civilians in Israel in what would be a war crime in a conventional war...

So far Israel has responded by TARGETED ATTACKS at the two palest launch sites.

Such responses are taken as a sign of weakness.
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05-05-2019, 10:45 AM
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Much of what you all are saying is true!
But my point is that Israel did not exist untill after WW2!
before which everybody was cohabiting in a reasonable
manner!
After the war it was decided by western nations, with no
input from local interests, to create a jewish state, and in
order to do this, they needed to evict the current owners
of these lands, who happened to be Palestinians, to make
room for these newcomers. The people they chose to carry
out these evictions were the british!
Obviously doing something like this was going to create a
lot of ill will, to put it mildly! things have merely moved on
to what we have now!
Just put yourselves into the same boat as palistinians where
your families had been forcibly dispossessed of most of
what they owned, how would YOU feel?
I dont condone what is taking place there now, on both
sides, but being hard arsed is not going to help, it will only
increase the allready high sense of greivance felt in that
area!
I think the lesson to be learned for the whole world would
be, not to tamper lightly with old established boundaries
and customs!

Regards Donkeyman!
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05-05-2019, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Much of what you all are saying is true!
But my point is that Israel did not exist untill after WW2!
before which everybody was cohabiting in a reasonable
manner!
After the war it was decided by western nations, with no
input from local interests, to create a jewish state, and in
order to do this, they needed to evict the current owners
of these lands, who happened to be Palestinians, to make
room for these newcomers. The people they chose to carry
out these evictions were the british!
Obviously doing something like this was going to create a
lot of ill will, to put it mildly! things have merely moved on
to what we have now!
Just put yourselves into the same boat as palistinians where
your families had been forcibly dispossessed of most of
what they owned, how would YOU feel?
I dont condone what is taking place there now, on both
sides, but being hard arsed is not going to help, it will only
increase the allready high sense of greivance felt in that
area!
I think the lesson to be learned for the whole world would
be, not to tamper lightly with old established boundaries
and customs!

Regards Donkeyman!
Wrong. Eretz Israel kicked off around 3500 years ago and was fully established around 3000 years ago when king David declared Jerusalem to be the capital city.

Today Israel is only a fraction of even Roman era Israel and was finally returned to us courtesy of the United Nations and even then we chose to be willing to accept a fraction of even that in order to (try to) ensure peace.

Edited to add ---

The vast majority of evictions of anyone resulted from the OWNERS of land which had been rented out selling the land that they had acquired so selling their tenants down the river.

There were a very small number of cases of immigrants who did steal land but when they were identified the Israeli authorities came down on them like a ton of skunk excrement.

To not have done would have created no end of knock on trouble so it made absolute sense to do so.
 
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