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Wish I had ever spotted this thread or opened it...
Thought I had moved on, just like we as a nation are trying to...
But no, crying all over again
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13-07-2019, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Kowhaigirl ->
Wish I had ever spotted this thread or opened it...
Thought I had moved on, just like we as a nation are trying to...
But no, crying all over again
Im afraid opinions are driven by events KG!
You are just experiencing what Europe has had to suffer for
at least two decades now, due imo to lack of a function!ng
system of controlling immigration!

Regards Donkeyman!
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13-07-2019, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Im afraid opinions are driven by events KG!
You are just experiencing what Europe has had to suffer for
at least two decades now, due imo to lack of a function!ng
system of controlling immigration!

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Immigration?
So New Zealand should ban Australians? In case more of them kill our citizens?
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13-07-2019, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Kowhaigirl ->
Immigration?
So New Zealand should ban Australians? In case more of them kill our citizens?
It's not immigrants per se, it's the colonists that create the problem that people are now only just waking up to.
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13-07-2019, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
It's not immigrants per se, it's the colonists that create the problem that people are now only just waking up to.
I agree colonisation has a long and devastating impact. I live in a predominantly Maori populated region and there is still so much which needs doing to right the transgressions of the not too distant past.

How exactly that correlates to an Australian gunning down Muslims in a Pacific nation I am struggling to see...
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13-07-2019, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Kowhaigirl ->
Immigration?
So New Zealand should ban Australians? In case more of them kill our citizens?
Valid point KG! But yes you should have stronger checks on
who enters your country? Whether they are tourists, or
immigrants or whatever? The world is a different place now
and so called freedom of movement does not appear to
have improved it does it?
I remember about 65yrs ago l applied to emigrate to NZ and
I had to approach the NZ embassy with my details and then
fill in lots of forms regarding skills, education, etc and get
a police clearance certificate! Does this system still apply ?
Another question l think that needs answering is can ozzies
just jump on a plane and flit over to NZ without a passport?


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13-07-2019, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Valid point KG! But yes you should have stronger checks on
who enters your country? Whether they are tourists, or
immigrants or whatever? The world is a different place now
and so called freedom of movement does not appear to
have improved it does it?
I remember about 65yrs ago l applied to emigrate to NZ and
I had to approach the NZ embassy with my details and then
fill in lots of forms regarding skills, education, etc and get
a police clearance certificate! Does this system still apply ?
Another question l think that needs answering is can ozzies
just jump on a plane and flit over to NZ without a passport?


Regards Donkeyman!
Immigration is still a pencil pushers dream yes.
Many forms to fill out, hoops to jump through, with restrictions tightening all the time.
For every potential stumbling block, there seems to be a loophole or easy get... I guess that is the way with 'systems'

To travel between Australia and NZ you need a valid passport, passing through the airport is as the same for any nationality
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13-07-2019, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Kowhaigirl ->
I agree colonisation has a long and devastating impact. I live in a predominantly Maori populated region and there is still so much which needs doing to right the transgressions of the not too distant past.

How exactly that correlates to an Australian gunning down Muslims in a Pacific nation I am struggling to see...
In the UK as well as in much of Europe Muslim "immigrants" have driven a great many people to undertake direct action but laws prohibit even the criticism let alone concerted action against the colonies they have established but there is a head of steam building here.

For someone totally gutted at what they see taking place but not gagged and crushed by laws it is understandable when they cut loose.

It will happen here in the UK soon. It is inevitable.
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13-07-2019, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Kowhaigirl ->
Immigration is still a pencil pushers dream yes.
Many forms to fill out, hoops to jump through, with restrictions tightening all the time.
For every potential stumbling block, there seems to be a loophole or easy get... I guess that is the way with 'systems'

To travel between Australia and NZ you need a valid passport, passing through the airport is as the same for any nationality
Err, not quite. Border visas are issued providing certain very reasonable conditions are met.
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13-07-2019, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Err, not quite. Border visas are issued providing certain very reasonable conditions are met.
As I understood it no visa is required to enter NZ if you are an Australian citizen, therefore allowing you to stay for a period of up to 3 months, no paperwork required... But you still require a passport
 
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