31-10-2020, 08:54 PM
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I first became aware of Judenhaas when I heard my father talking with my cousin who had returned from fighting the Brits in Israel. Thereafter I noticed Judenhaas amongst some of the kids I played with, that was 69 years ago. I know it was then because it was at my birthday party.That set me to find out why we were filth and should be burned and all that good stuff.
Over the years I learned a great deal. The more that I learned the sadder I became because of the utter stupidIty and nonsense Judenhaas is based on.
Mind, I picked up a fair selection of bloody good jokes in the process!
31-10-2020, 09:13 PM
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Do you know Todger ... I wasn't especially bothered one way or the other about Jews or Muslims twenty, fifteen or even ten years ago. Never gave much thought to them.Then all the ME problems landed like a vast steaming heap of sloppy diarrhoetic stuff in Europe and the UK with hundreds of thousands of refugees and the odd gory terrorist attack thrown in.
We should never have got involved in the ME. We reaped what we sowed, as they say.
Even so I reckon Muslims and Jews are as bad as each other. Especially toward each other.
As a Westerner, understandably, I dislike Muslims more due to their terrorist activities but it doesn't follow that I should then like or support Israel because of that. Afterall, they too had their own terrorist arm who killed and butchered innocent people.
Both are convinced they have a genuine axe to grind against the other. Both hate each other. Both will fight to the bitter end. Both are pretty archaic in many ways.
Tribal in their perceptions.
You can't admire or identify with any victor, or victim come to that, if they treat their enemies like dirt.
31-10-2020, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Morticia
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Do you know Todger ... I wasn't especially bothered one way or the other about Jews or Muslims twenty, fifteen or even ten years ago. Never gave much thought to them.Then all the ME problems landed like a vast steaming heap of sloppy diarrhoetic stuff in Europe and the UK with hundreds of thousands of refugees and the odd gory terrorist attack thrown in.
We should never have got involved in the ME. We reaped what we sowed, as they say.
Even so I reckon Muslims and Jews are as bad as each other. Especially toward each other.
As a Westerner, understandably, I dislike Muslims more due to their terrorist activities but it doesn't follow that I should then like or support Israel because of that. Afterall, they too had their own terrorist arm who killed and butchered innocent people.
Both are convinced they have a genuine axe to grind against the other. Both hate each other. Both will fight to the bitter end. Both are pretty archaic in many ways.
Tribal in their perceptions.
You can't admire or identify with any victor, or victim come to that, if they treat their enemies like dirt.
31-10-2020, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Morticia
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Do you know Todger ... I wasn't especially bothered one way or the other about Jews or Muslims twenty, fifteen or even ten years ago. Never gave much thought to them.Then all the ME problems landed like a vast steaming heap of sloppy diarrhoetic stuff in Europe and the UK with hundreds of thousands of refugees and the odd gory terrorist attack thrown in.
We should never have got involved in the ME. We reaped what we sowed, as they say.
Even so I reckon Muslims and Jews are as bad as each other. Especially toward each other.
As a Westerner, understandably, I dislike Muslims more due to their terrorist activities but it doesn't follow that I should then like or support Israel because of that. Afterall, they too had their own terrorist arm who killed and butchered innocent people.
Both are convinced they have a genuine axe to grind against the other. Both hate each other. Both will fight to the bitter end. Both are pretty archaic in many ways.
Tribal in their perceptions.
You can't admire or identify with any victor, or victim come to that, if they treat their enemies like dirt.
31-10-2020, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Harbal
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You only keep disagreeing with me because I'm from Yorkshire. You are an anti-Yorkshireist. 
It’s your misfortune to be born on the wrong side of the penines
31-10-2020, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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In the case of the Irgun et al they really were freedom fighters. It's not a case of one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter the Irgun really WERE freedom fighters. If the Brits had not had to be kicked out the likelihood of the Jewish state might never have been established.
Sometimes I worry about you Todger.
What had kicking the Brits out got to do with the Deir Yassin massacre in 1948.
It was horrendous. Appalling. And totally indefensible.
How can you be proud of a street fight in a small village of 600 where 107 Palestinian Arabs were slaughtered. Executed. Their corpses thrown into a large pit.
Yes ... I suppose if one chooses to support Irgun one would have to laud them as freedom fighters rather than murderers... presumably not unlike the Muslims who protest about France's Islamaphobia and run around shooting priests. They believe it's all justifiable, all for the greater good
And as to the establishment of the Jewish State?
If it hadn't been for the Holocaust and a global outpouring of horror and demands for restitution of some kind ... there would never have been an Israel with some of the misguided support it receives today.
31-10-2020, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Muddy
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It’s your misfortune to be born on the wrong side of the penines
I do apologise. I shall make allowances for you in future.
31-10-2020, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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In the case of the Irgun et al they really were freedom fighters. It's not a case of one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter the Irgun really WERE freedom fighters. If the Brits had not had to be kicked out the likelihood of the Jewish state might never have been established.
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