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Blair had the support of both houses to go to war .
It’s not alleged anti semitism the Labour Party has been infiltrated by extremist groups .Corbyn knows this and has allowed it .
Anti semitism -nobody died ( apart from six million or so when last anti semitism had a free rein )

Excellent article by the Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ality-watchdog
But Blair was in charge at the time, and he had the last word Muddy....
Same as Boris gets the blame for the spread of Covid, and Corbyn gets the blame for some unfortunate in the labour party spouting antisemitism....When has politics ever been fair?
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What saddens me is the gullible believing all that rubbish .
But the point is, being against Israel, or being gullible, for that matter, is not necessarily any indication of antisemitism.
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What saddens me is how justifiable condemnation of Israel, in its treatment of the Palestinians, is suppressed by accusations of anti-semitism.
It's interesting to go back to no further than 1900 and see what took place in the Levant.

Actually the "Palestinians" didn't even exist as a quasi-nationality until arafat invented them after previously spoke of them as "The Palestinian people have no national identity".

He created it from the tribes so many of which had been kicked out of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan for being trouble makers and who entered the land that was all intended to become the re-established Israel.
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31-10-2020, 11:14 AM
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But the point is, being against Israel, or being gullible, for that matter, is not necessarily any indication of antisemitism.
Yes it is. Israel is a place, a nation, and a people. Indivisible.
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Only if you are religious.
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Yes it is. Israel is a place, a nation, and a people. Indivisible.
No it isn't.

You are doing exactly what I drew attention to in my original statement. You are trying to shut down any criticism of Israel by yelling out "racism". That is a disingenuous tactic.
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31-10-2020, 11:41 AM
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No it isn't.

You are doing exactly what I drew attention to in my original statement. You are trying to shut down any criticism of Israel by yelling out "racism". That is a disingenuous tactic.
Sadly a very common tactic used these days, and not just confined to Israel Harbal....Blacks, Gays, Muslims, you name it. It has become very unfashionable to criticise or discuss anything these days....
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31-10-2020, 11:51 AM
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A lot of racism by labour included their own Jewish constituents living in London.

The "alternative view" by the left to make excuses and try to deflect from their disgusting behaviour should be treated as "more lies", "no change" and "business as usual".
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What I don't understand is why they are using anti semitism as a stick to beat him with when it's all about people just wanting to get rid of him. It's counter productive because he will just pop up elsewhere, stronger. He was already ousted as the worst leader Labour have ever had, why is he such a threat?
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31-10-2020, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
What I don't understand is why they are using anti semitism as a stick to beat him with when it's all about people just wanting to get rid of him. It's counter productive because he will just pop up elsewhere, stronger. He was already ousted as the worst leader Labour have ever had, why is he such a threat?

No it isn't.

Its about the PLP. Labour is all about collectivism.
 
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