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30-08-2019, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
You were called the sick man of europe in 1973. You fully recuperated with the help if the EU. Now brexit has brought a disease to your democracy, and will make you again the sick woman of europe.
Talk about fighting to keep us in and our contribution financially just shows how much more each EU country and people are going to have to dig deeper into their pockets to make up the shortfall


Solasch
your scare tactics don't work, it is your lot that should be worried. Just think, to earn the same you will have to work longer as your EU contributions will increase tremendously.

The EU poor will have bread lines stretching miles as the EU bureaucrats live the high life on your money.

I can actually detect how worried you are loosing all those euros out of your pocket. it shows in your posts.


I can also see other countries dissatisfied with the EU leaving as well so more cash needed from the countries that remain. Of course not forgetting countries demanding more handouts from the EU.

Yes you are going to be really paying to stay in.
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30-08-2019, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
You were called the sick man of europe in 1973. You fully recuperated with the help if the EU. Now brexit has brought a disease to your democracy, and will make you again the sick woman of europe.
We weren't allowed to join when we were the poor man of europe, we had already recovered or France would have kept us out. It seems funny now they don't seem to want us to leave. Fight to get in fight to get out and what Eu particularly France have said about us both times really has been nasty. Considering how often we have been there for them they don't just not appreciate it they seem to hate us for it too !
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30-08-2019, 04:49 PM
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We should have let Germany overrun France and occupied it. By now we would only have one country anti us against 2
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30-08-2019, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread ->
But for some remainers just being a member is enough.
I'd be quite happy for them to keep their little flags and pretend that they're still members of the EU Empire.
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30-08-2019, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by realspeed ->
It is only chaos because the remainers have obstructed the will of the majority to leave. They have tried every dirty trick possible to get their way. Now those who are for leaving are hitting back with dirty tricks of their own and the remainders getting a taste of what they have been dishing out.
Yes, I was about to say the same thing, but you beat me to it!

That's one thing that really annoys me: how the remainiacs try to blame us for the problems that they themselves are causing. It's the same thing when they accuse Boris of being undemocratic by proroguing Parliament whilst they themselves have been undemocratic by refusing to accept the referendum outcome.
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30-08-2019, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
Our Parliament is sovereign. The Government is accountable to it. As I understand it a number of people voted leave to underline that point to the EU. Now people are saying parliament should not be sovereign. Go figure!
There's a bit of arse-about-face-ism here, I think!

Parliament is elected by us, the people. They present a mandate and the people who elect them expect them to honour that mandate. On that basis, Parliament is accountable to the people.

The referendum was the same. Cameron quite clearly stated that the result would be respected. What's more, after the result was announced Parliament as a whole agreed to honour it.

Look up the definition of 'democracy'.
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30-08-2019, 05:22 PM
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Re: Personal EU Membership

Originally Posted by Julie1962 ->
We weren't allowed to join when we were the poor man of europe, we had already recovered or France would have kept us out. It seems funny now they don't seem to want us to leave. Fight to get in fight to get out and what Eu particularly France have said about us both times really has been nasty. Considering how often we have been there for them they don't just not appreciate it they seem to hate us for it too !
I think hate is the wrong word Julie, more like scorn?
Germany because of barrogance?
France because of humiliation?
Otherwise you are spot on

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30-08-2019, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl ->
We'll take our chances. The Organisation that we were originally tricked into joining, is not the dictatorship it has turned out to be now.

Better to be a temporary sick man of Europe than a permanent slave.

Yeah we might end up like Greece or Spain or Portugal or Ireland or Italy
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30-08-2019, 05:28 PM
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Re: Personal EU Membership

Originally Posted by realspeed ->
We should have let Germany overrun France and occupied it. By now we would only have one country anti us against 2
We did'nt have to Realspeed! The French themslves let
the Germans overrun France, hence their dislike of bBrits!

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30-08-2019, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
We did'nt have to Realspeed! The French themslves let
the Germans overrun France, hence their dislike of Brits!
Yes, exactly. As you said: humiliation! That's why they don't like us.
 
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