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15-09-2019, 04:49 PM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

Originally Posted by Banchory ->
So when we leave and those who thought they were worse off find out that they have become even more worse off, what then? Who will they blame when they find out the wealthy advocates of leave have all made fortunes on shorting the pound

Funny how you can predict the future if we leave the EU but you can't tell me the future if the EU if we remained. What was it you said you were voting for ???

Nothing to see here, just sneering nonsense from a wealthy socialist snob.
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15-09-2019, 07:30 PM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

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Funny how you can predict the future if we leave the EU but you can't tell me the future if the EU if we remained. What was it you said you were voting for ???

Nothing to see here, just sneering nonsense from a wealthy socialist snob.
Oh dear, it seems I’ve touched a raw nerve, probably a bit too close to the truth. Can’t let the cat out of the bag can we

I see you have no qualms with those wealthy brexiteers shorting the pound and crashing the economy to line their pockets.

As for the future, I have no crystal ball so I’m just expounding the consensus of most economic analysts who are predicting that the UK will be worse off. Even brexiteers pet economist Patrick Minford accepts that the UK will be poorer when we leave.
Maybe if someone could present a demonstrable prognosis of a Brexit scenario where the UK would prosper post leaving the EU my view might be changed but given what’s been put forward to date I won’t hold my breath

Why on earth would you think I’m a socialist? As usual you’re wrong again, I’d never vote for a a government with leftist principles anymore than I’d vote for one with a far right ideology.

As you say nothing to see here for embittered leavers with closed minds but plenty of thought provoking stuff for the more enlightened who keep an open mind to see
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15-09-2019, 07:32 PM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

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So I'm not voting brexit again.

What about you?
if you don't vote then you don't have the right to make any comments on the outcome or the lead up to it
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15-09-2019, 07:33 PM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

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Oh dear, it seems I’ve touched a raw nerve, probably a bit too close to the truth. Can’t let the cat out of the bag can we

I see you have no qualms with those wealthy brexiteers shorting the pound and crashing the economy to line their pockets.

As for the future, I have no crystal ball so I’m just expounding the consensus of most economic analysts who are predicting that the UK will be worse off. Even brexiteers pet economist Patrick Minford accepts that the UK will be poorer when we leave.
Maybe if someone could present a demonstrable prognosis of a Brexit scenario where the UK would prosper post leaving the EU my view might be changed but given what’s been put forward to date I won’t hold my breath

Why on earth would you think I’m a socialist? As usual you’re wrong again, I’d never vote for a a government with leftist principles anymore than I’d vote for one with a far right ideology.

As you say nothing to see here for embittered leavers with closed minds but plenty of thought provoking stuff for the more enlightened who keep an open mind to see
No answers ...

Your view will never change your yesterdays news spouting the Patrick Minford prophesy of doom ... hilarious.

How are we doing on trade deals ? 45 last count ... :lol,:
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15-09-2019, 09:29 PM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

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Oh dear, it seems I’ve touched a raw nerve, probably a bit too close to the truth. Can’t let the cat out of the bag can we
For instance, that according to UK government only 13 trade deals were closed? https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-trade...no-deal-brexit
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15-09-2019, 10:41 PM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

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No answers ...

Your view will never change your yesterdays news spouting the Patrick Minford prophesy of doom ... hilarious.

How are we doing on trade deals ? 45 last count ... :lol,:
Still no condemnation of the wealthy leave bakers seeking to profit by Shorting the pound and trashing the UK economy leaving the leaver who voted to better their lives worse off.

Minford’s as mad as a box of frogs but I’d believe the economic forecasts of the majority of them worlds economists over the economic predictions of someone who peddles suppositories and can put labels on things

Why do you celebrate failure? 45 or whatever the real figure may be is a lot less than we currently have.

Have you subscribed to a membership of the Brexit Party yet?
I only ask as I came across a group of pensioners dressed in pale blue campaigning for the Brexit Party earlier today. They were handing out the party newspaper and asked me if I voted for Angela Merkel. A strand question to ask do I asked them if they voted for Farage to become leader of their party and if they were Supporters, three of them showed me membership cards.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...-9083691%3famp
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16-09-2019, 08:02 AM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

Originally Posted by Banchory ->
Still no condemnation of the wealthy leave bakers seeking to profit by Shorting the pound and trashing the UK economy leaving the leaver who voted to better their lives worse off.

Minford’s as mad as a box of frogs but I’d believe the economic forecasts of the majority of them worlds economists over the economic predictions of someone who peddles suppositories and can put labels on things

Why do you celebrate failure? 45 or whatever the real figure may be is a lot less than we currently have.

Have you subscribed to a membership of the Brexit Party yet?
I only ask as I came across a group of pensioners dressed in pale blue campaigning for the Brexit Party earlier today. They were handing out the party newspaper and asked me if I voted for Angela Merkel. A strand question to ask do I asked them if they voted for Farage to become leader of their party and if they were Supporters, three of them showed me membership cards.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.i...-9083691%3famp

I've met nigel farage twice and it's good to see their members campaigning on doorsteps rather than drinking champagne at conferences. Looks like your own party lied to you. Your leader Jo Swinson has a party of MPs all elected on somebody elses manifesto. They are the undemocratic unliberal party who are allegiance is to somebody elses government and who will never listen to the people.

All your forecasts have been wrong and you still can't tell me what you voted for.

I take it that the sneering comments about my company are all your own work. Typical from someone who knows nothing.including what he voted for.
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16-09-2019, 09:08 AM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

Hi

Bread, I know sod all about Pharmaceuticals, so I accept what you say.

I know a lot about Immigration and Security, that was my job.

I also know a lot about Food Exports, my backup job.

I have my advanced HACCP, an EU Qualification, still Valid.

I went back to it when May sacked us.

I also know a lot about exports of used car parts and the import of them.

That is what my Polish Lodgers do.

It is not as simple as you think.

I am not an OVS, so cannot sign for unprocessed raw meat, I can sign for every other foods.

No Deal will not affect me, I can earn enough one day a week.

I worry about others.
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16-09-2019, 09:23 AM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

We have heard so much of the disadvantages of leaving the EU but surely there are some advantages but so far all we hear is the doom and gloom that will be our lot if we leave with a no deal.
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16-09-2019, 09:45 AM
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Re: 52/48 but we were lied to.

We are an island race, not like other EU countries that are stuck to each other.

We need to make our own decisions ,not some foreign jumped up country that could not even defend itself when attacked.

WE at least are not brainwashed into thinking putting all your eggs into one basket is a good idea. We are independant and the sooner those not only on this forum realise that and the Europeans the better.

The only justification for wanting us to stay in the EU is because they want out financial support, without that the EU would collapse

I cannot understand why a certain member wants to stick his nose into our political decisions instead of worrying about his own useless country that does nothing but sit on the fence.

I have heard or seen nothing about any Netherlands input into the say on what should happen in the EU to affect policy decisions. Maybe it is about time these LITTLE pathatic countries spoke up
 
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