29-11-2019, 10:06 PM
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Re: Hillsborough finally put to bed.
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Did you notice the word TURNSTILES?The out of control "excited" rabble were in the STREET.
NOT at the TURNSTILES.
29-11-2019, 10:17 PM
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Re: Hillsborough finally put to bed.
Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Do you believe the police killed them on purpose Cinders??The officer on the spot admitted an error of judgement!
What more do you want?
Donkeyman!
The police should have admitted mistakes from the start it seems they concocted a web of lies, which have been discredited.
29-11-2019, 10:19 PM
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Re: Hillsborough finally put to bed.
Originally Posted by Cinderella
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That was the conclusion of the inquest. https://www.gov.uk/government/speech...rough-inquests
The question was significant given suggestions, made at stages after the lethal event, that the deaths had been the consequence of the fans themselves, self-inflicted acts of suicidal, mob-directed horror. European football, and certainly English football, had developed a deep reputation for savage mob violence. It became the central point of reference for shoddy reaction on the part of authorities, an apologia for miscalculation, ineptitude and near criminal negligence.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/05...aster-inquest/
29-11-2019, 10:42 PM
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Re: Hillsborough finally put to bed.
Originally Posted by Cinderella
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Experienced officers should have been able to deal with crowd in the street before they got to the ground. Insufficient police presence maybe.
I have. Years ago but they've not changed.
It would take more than bizzies to stop them. They're animals.
29-11-2019, 10:43 PM
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Re: Hillsborough finally put to bed.
Originally Posted by scot37
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And David Duckenfield found not guilty of gross negligence at the latest trial. What about Heysel 4 years earlier when 39 Juventus fans were crushed to death when they were charged by Liverpool fans ? Not much said about that.
29-11-2019, 11:18 PM
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Re: Hillsborough finally put to bed.
Originally Posted by Judd
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Exactly. Was going to mention this myself if nobody else had. In that case, two police officers were scapegoated - someone else looking to apportion blame to remove the cause of the tragedy from themselves.
29-11-2019, 11:34 PM
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Re: Hillsborough finally put to bed.
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Have you ever been to a football match and experienced being in the middle of a mob of hundreds of bevvied up scousers going to a grudge match?I have. Years ago but they've not changed.
It would take more than bizzies to stop them. They're animals.
Have been to a Millwall match, playing Norwich. Most fans were OK, a minority were not there to watch and enjoy the game.
30-11-2019, 12:15 AM
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Re: Hillsborough finally put to bed.
Originally Posted by Cinderella
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Most football clubs have an element of thug fans, looking to cause trouble. Police seem to have a problem with Liverpool fans.Have been to a Millwall match, playing Norwich. Most fans were OK, a minority were not there to watch and enjoy the game.
Norwich? Pussy cats.
Liverpool and to a lesser extent Everton? When they form a mob they are pure psychopaths.
30-11-2019, 12:27 PM
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Re: Hillsborough finally put to bed.
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Millwall? Admittedly hard. Norwich? Pussy cats.
Liverpool and to a lesser extent Everton? When they form a mob they are pure psychopaths.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...y-Anfield.html
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