27-01-2020, 04:36 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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So price people out of their cars and introduce other measures such as rationing of fuel and road use taxes based on distance.OUR environment simply can not afford people to use polution forms of transport. That is the thing that is unaffordable.
If you really think to discourage people from using their cars, you're barking up the wrong tree...
or perhaps just barking!
27-01-2020, 04:40 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by Mups
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So is anybody able to answer the question I asked back in post 4, about where are we supposed to pull over if we have a break down now, and are they removing the motorway phones along the hard shoulders? 
Who would dare to stop and use one of the phones with traffic thundering by just inches from them?
Don't expect AA or other rescue services to come and help either. The AA have announced that they will not stop on smart motorways.
27-01-2020, 04:40 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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I've been using SI units since my undergrad days. It's a thing that "came with the territory" for what I was reading.
27-01-2020, 05:14 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by JBR
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I suspect if you had your way, we'd be using horses and carts.If you really think to discourage people from using their cars, you're barking up the wrong tree...
or perhaps just barking!
Canals really should be brought back into service and expanded and use of coastal shipping to link with onshore distribution be brought back not to mention transport of goods by sea replacing the HORRENDOUS waste resulting from the use of air transport
We are now at the end of the cheap travel age because it is patently obvious that it has not been cheap in environmental cost terms and is big time unaffordable.
Anthropogenic climate change is now an inescapable fact and release of greenhouse gasses resulting from burning fossil fuels must end.
We're at the end of the cheap transport age because it's now clear that it's anything but cheap and starting the responsible transport and movement age.
27-01-2020, 05:16 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by JBR
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The you should move with the times and use mph.
It would be like reverting to pounds shillings and pence or pounds and ounces which surely no one would want.
27-01-2020, 06:07 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by Besoeker
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So why do you drive a Mercedes AMG GLC 43 4MATIC??
It's also a whole lot more efficient than my previous thing though I must admit the seats in the Merc are not as comfortable for my fine childbearing hips!
My wife's rust bucket is also a much more economical thing than she previously drove moreover we now use just my car and are seriously considering flogging her thing for a hybrid vehicle.
27-01-2020, 06:18 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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Horses and carts no, but much more use of rail for people and freight really should be MADE to happen and the best way to do that is by making use of personal cars and trucks prohibitively expensive and only viable for very exceptional circumstances where the need justifies the lunatics cost.We're at the end of the cheap transport age because it's now clear that it's anything but cheap and starting the responsible transport and movement age.
Originally Posted by Besoeker
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So why do you drive a Mercedes AMG GLC 43 4MATIC??
27-01-2020, 06:19 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by Meg
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Very wise ST 
27-01-2020, 06:22 PM
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Re: Smart motorways
Originally Posted by Judd
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You are being delusional if you think that people will give up their cars to travel on an extremely expensive train. Train fares are exorbitant now, so goodness knows how much HS2 fares will be if the carbuncle ever gets built.
In Europe and throughout the world train fare is cheap .
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