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27-01-2020, 09:15 PM
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Grenfell drags on!

Grenfell drags its self into the second phase with the resignation
of one of the enquiry panel? Allthough she has nothing really to cause
her to do this she judged her presence could cause some of the
victims to cause problems in the smooth running of the enquiry in
this crucial next phase?
The early reports from the enquiry look to be hopeful for the victims
as allthough all the sub-contractors have so far avoided incriminating
them selves evidence is mounting that the main supplier of the
cladding was very lax about selling this product for high rise
buildings, which they knew Grenfell was? Plus their product was
banned in the usa for use on high buildings?
I expect the battle will be over the proportion of blame between
all the role players?
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27-01-2020, 10:08 PM
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Re: Grenfell drags on!

The failure is systemic and the cladding was fine if used correctly.
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28-01-2020, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
The failure is systemic and the cladding was fine if used correctly.
Early indications of the enquiry have found the cladding was
UFP the americans have even banned the stuff from high rise
buildings and they make the crap Todgy?
The installation of the cladding WAS passed off by the inspectors
as correctly done but for the window seals!
And the primary cause of the rapid spread of the fire was the
the cladding!
Read the latest summary Todge!!
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28-01-2020, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Early indications of the enquiry have found the cladding was
UFP the americans have even banned the stuff from high rise
buildings and they make the crap Todgy?
The installation of the cladding WAS passed off by the inspectors
as correctly done but for the window seals!
And the primary cause of the rapid spread of the fire was the
the cladding!
Read the latest summary Todge!!
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I have, but what must be taken into account is state of the art where the cladding itself is concerned and while the installation might well be to spec the unanswered question is was the hight to which the cladding was installed as well as if it was installed to spec taking into account the window seals. If that was not done correctly then it should not have been passed by any post installation inspection.

It's for those reasons, and many more, that the root cause is systematic with the buck stopping with the council.
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13-02-2020, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
I have, but what must be taken into account is state of the art where the cladding itself is concerned and while the installation might well be to spec the unanswered question is was the hight to which the cladding was installed as well as if it was installed to spec taking into account the window seals. If that was not done correctly then it should not have been passed by any post installation inspection.

It's for those reasons, and many more, that the root cause is systematic with the buck stopping with the council.
Jus seen a report of the enquiry which stated as follows
THE UNDERLYING CAUSE OF THE RAPID SREAD OF FIRE WAS
THE USE OF UNSUITABLE MATERIAL FOR THE CLADDING!!
l assume they are now alloting the amounts for contributory
responsibility so they can assess the amount of compensation to
be paid by the manufacturers if they dont declare bankrupcy?
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13-02-2020, 08:23 PM
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I doubt if the 'buck' will stop at anyone. That's what these enquiries are for. they drag on for so long that everyone loses interest.
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13-02-2020, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Longdogs ->
I doubt if the 'buck' will stop at anyone. That's what these enquiries are for. they drag on for so long that everyone loses interest.
Yes l know LD, thats why l do my best to keep it going!
Perhaps l should join facebook?
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13-02-2020, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Yes l know LD, thats why l do my best to keep it going!
Perhaps l should join facebook?
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06-03-2020, 05:45 PM
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Re: Grenfell drags on!

Allthough the architect involved in the downgrading of Grenfell
Towers has admitted he was not conversant with fire regulations
when he tendered for the job of designing the cladding system l
still hold that everything that has been discussed so far is only
secondary to the cause of the fire!
The main culprit remains to be the materials used, as if the cladding
was not combustible there was no way that a fire could have taken
place?
The american manufacrurers were even prohibited from selling it
in the usa, allthough sadly not from manufacturing it??
I suppose we just have to wait for the class action case in the usa
to run its course but hopes of justice are slim given the state of
the american justice system which is even worse than ours!
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