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23-04-2019, 01:37 PM
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Re: I Think I’ve Made A Huge Mistake, Getting Sky Q.

Originally Posted by Realist ->
Yep also agree.

Your ordinary terrestrial TV reception has absolutely nothing to do with a Sky box. Terrestial TV (freeview etc) requires an ordinary TV aerial up on the roof pointing towards your nearest transmitter station.

Sky uses a satellite dish pointing "up" into space and uses a different cable.

If your terrestrial TV is no longer working it means they have unplugged something that you previous had in place.

If you have TV's in every room them I am guessing that you must have somewhere a "signal booster" box. I use one of these to get a great signal.

Some simple questions.

1) what is plugged into the back of each of your TVs?
Do they each have an aerial cable going into the back of them or do they have some kind of wireless device plugged into them?


2) You will only have one terrestrial TV aerial on your roof and there will only be one cable coming from it. So if you have TV's in every room that means that somewhere that single aerial cable is being split into lots of other separate cables, with one leading to each TV. Do you know where that point is? Are you aware of any aerial box where the main aerial cable from the roof goes in, and where a load of other cables come out?

3) What TV were you previously watching? Was it Freŷ5eview?
If so you MUST have had a Freeview digi box of some kind to decode the aerial signal. Where is that digi box now? Is it still plugged in?

All in all I think you will regret buying Sky. Engineers will be concerned with making your Sky box working. They won't have any jurisdiction over anything else you have.

With Sky you have no idea what service you are paying for which is why I have always refused to have it. By this I mean, whilst you know you have bought a basic package, there is absolutely no guarantee what is transmitted in the basic package. Today it could be Sky A, B, C channels. Tomorrow Murdock can (and probably will) change it to something else. That means if you bought a package thinking you'd get programs A,B and C you could find they move to other channels tomorrow which are no longer covered by your package. THAT is how Sky get you from the basic package to the crazy situation of paying £30-£80 per month for other packages.

All depends what you want though. I stick with Freeview and whilst it has nothing like the breadth of content that Sky does it is free. I have no monthly charges at all. zero.

Horses for courses.
Realist, l’d say in comparison to what some people pay to get Sky, l have a great deal. My sister and husband pay £110 a month for the whole Sky package but that includes WiFi and their landline. I tell them, they are still paying too much.
I was going to go with Freeview but l like Sky Atlantic and Sky Arts that l can’t get with Freeview.
I would never pay the big prices you quote. In fact, me being with them for so long, they reward me by giving me big discounts.

I do not have any wireless devices attached to the televisions. All the televisions are digital. I’m thinking now that maybe, the ordinary aerial must have wires attached to the booster thing in the loft?
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23-04-2019, 01:41 PM
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Re: I Think I’ve Made A Huge Mistake, Getting Sky Q.

Originally Posted by Realist ->
You are getting confused here between Sky and Freview.

Sky is Sky. You cannot watch anything from Sky unless the signal is first decoded/unscrambled through a Sky Box.

Sky News is a channel on Terrestrial Freeview TV. It's not Sky as such, it's a free channel.

I figured you would have a booster box hence my earlier questions.

In order for people to help you we need to understand what you want to achieve in your home.

Do you want:

1) All TV's to just be able to see the Sky Box channels

2) Some TV's to see only Sky and some to see only Freeview?

3) All TV's to be able to show both Sky and Freeview?
No l’m not getting confused at all. I know exactly what the difference is between Sky and Freeview. Sky is coming from a satellite!
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23-04-2019, 01:49 PM
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Re: I Think I’ve Made A Huge Mistake, Getting Sky Q.

Originally Posted by Artangel ->
I was going to go with Freeview but l like Sky Atlantic and Sky Arts that l can’t get with Freeview.
That's fine until Sky Atlantic and Arts move over to a different Sky Package. Then you're stuck with the choice of quitting Sky, or buying a more expensive package. I've never understood how Murdock can get away with offering a "service" that he can change at will. Imagine going to a Chinese restaurant and paying for Set Meal A having chosen that because of what it contains, and then finding that they bring you a load of other dishes that aren't on Set Meal A. We wouldn't stand for it in any other life situation, so why do people keep putting up with it with Murdock ?? If you could buy specific channels rather than packages then that would be ok.


Originally Posted by Artangel ->
I do not have any wireless devices attached to the televisions. All the televisions are digital. I’m thinking now that maybe, the ordinary aerial must have wires attached to the booster thing in the loft?
Yep. Undoubtedly the booster box is also a splitter. Main aerial cable goes in the back, and lots of other cables come out the front, each one going to a separate TV in the house.

The Sky engineer will not have touched your booster box. That's Terrestrial TV which he doesn't care about.

If your TV's are all digital then that means they have their own Freeview decoders inside them, which means you didn't need (and presumably didn't have) any separate set-top digi box for Freeview.

So all those TV's need to be able to see Freeview is one of those aerial cables plugged into the back of them.

Can you check that is still the case?

Are there any other cables plugged into them (except the main TV which must also have a Sky cable going into it)?
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23-04-2019, 01:51 PM
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Re: I Think I’ve Made A Huge Mistake, Getting Sky Q.

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No l’m not getting confused at all. I know exactly what the difference is between Sky and Freeview. Sky is coming from a satellite!
Ok no problem, it's just that you said:

"I could get Sky news on the tv in the bedroom, without a Sky box if that is a clue? "

Every TV can get Sky News without a Sky box. It's a Freeview channel.
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23-04-2019, 05:24 PM
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Re: I Think I’ve Made A Huge Mistake, Getting Sky Q.

Could you get a Sky only channel in the bedroom before the change? And do the other TVs show the same channel as is being shown on the main TV?




https://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/skyinotherrooms.html
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23-04-2019, 09:04 PM
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Re: I Think I’ve Made A Huge Mistake, Getting Sky Q.

Well I'm glad I found out now about the lack of a TV socket on a Q box. I'm wondering how my niece is getting on with it, as she had it installed when the family moved back into their house from renting one in the country.
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23-04-2019, 09:15 PM
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Re: I Think I’ve Made A Huge Mistake, Getting Sky Q.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/08/29/sky-q-review/

This might be of interest to you. You need to get the mini set top box to piggy back to the main one, to have the signal sent to other TVs. It says the first one is free, then you pay for others.

I'd be devastated if my Sky + HD box were to break down as I think they are being phased out.
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23-04-2019, 09:30 PM
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Re: I Think I’ve Made A Huge Mistake, Getting Sky Q.

Sky no longer offer the Sky + HD box but refurbished ones are relatively cheap on eBay. Sky dropped the TV-OUT connection to force people to take multi-room subscriptions and the mini boxes cost £99 after the first one.
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23-04-2019, 09:42 PM
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Re: I Think I’ve Made A Huge Mistake, Getting Sky Q.

Originally Posted by Ray Cathode ->
Sky dropped the TV-OUT connection to force people to take multi-room subscriptions and the mini boxes cost £99 after the first one.
Well they say there's a sucker born every minute so they will do well out of it I'm sure.
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23-04-2019, 10:00 PM
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Re: I Think I’ve Made A Huge Mistake, Getting Sky Q.

Sorry to hear about your plight Arty, I can't possibly help because I wouldn't touch sky with a barge pole, I reckon you need to watch an awful lot of telly to warrant those sorts of prices and quite frankly my dear.....(where have I heard that before?) I think at my age 'time' is far too valuable.

I do watch telly in the evenings but I'm so tired it's just nice to get the weight off my feet and I'll always find something of interest on freeview.....Somewhere.....I mean......Jesus! There are over one hundred channels.....There must be something worth watching......shouldn't there?......
 
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