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Re: Is Tourism Killing Venice?

Any port planning to make use of Cruise ships, to bring in massive profits, needs to understand a few realities.

If you go on a cruise, the price, usually, includes the cost of the very fine meals provided on board.

The tendency to eat ashore might be much less, especially when you think of overcrowded, over priced, low quality meals available ashore.

Then there is the booze. Booze might seem expensive, on a cruise liner, but have a quick look at the prices in Venice!

So, apart from souvenirs, what are cruise users going to spend most of their money on?

A better move might be to tell Cruise Companies to shut down their Kitchens, and bars, when they get there.

That won't happen.

So, the crowds are just walking through?

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Re: Is Tourism Killing Venice?

Originally Posted by Tedc ->
Any port planning to make use of Cruise ships, to bring in massive profits, needs to understand a few realities.

If you go on a cruise, the price, usually, includes the cost of the very fine meals provided on board.

The tendency to eat ashore might be much less, especially when you think of overcrowded, over priced, low quality meals available ashore.

Then there is the booze. Booze might seem expensive, on a cruise liner, but have a quick look at the prices in Venice!

So, apart from souvenirs, what are cruise users going to spend most of their money on?

A better move might be to tell Cruise Companies to shut down their Kitchens, and bars, when they get there.

That won't happen.

So, the crowds are just walking through?

But is that what is actually happening Ted?
Surely they eat something during the day ?
And take a drink or two as well ??
But l see your point !!

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02-04-2021, 03:44 PM
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Re: Is Tourism Killing Venice?

Originally Posted by Tedc ->
Any port planning to make use of Cruise ships, to bring in massive profits, needs to understand a few realities.

If you go on a cruise, the price, usually, includes the cost of the very fine meals provided on board.

The tendency to eat ashore might be much less, especially when you think of overcrowded, over priced, low quality meals available ashore.

Then there is the booze. Booze might seem expensive, on a cruise liner, but have a quick look at the prices in Venice!


So, apart from souvenirs, what are cruise users going to spend most of their money on?

A better move might be to tell Cruise Companies to shut down their Kitchens, and bars, when they get there.

That won't happen.

So, the crowds are just walking through?

Here's a tip for anyone planning to visit Italian cities in the future. Don't use the bars, cafés and restaurants in the main tourist areas and DO NOT sit at the tables provided outside any bars or cafés unless you want to be right royally ripped off. Always walk back a couple of blocks behind the main areas. You will always find a decent place for a drink or something to eat and the prices will be much more affordable.
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Venice bans cruise ships from historic centre

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56592109



Probably the best non-COVID news this year so far .....

Bravo, Italia!

I thoroughly agree, having been on a ship that berthed just a block down from St. Marks Square for two days, I worried about the ship's impact on the piers, pilings, and buildings. Mooring there is totally unnecessary. Should I go back, I would certainly be willing to take additional transportation if it negatively affects any world heritage or important site.

Although I am guilty of You aren't in traffic, you are traffic," and I understand the desire to bring tourism to a location, there has to be a happy medium when it comes to the number of ships allow to moor in one place. I cancelled a cruise this summer when I discovered on a ship schedule that there were going to be SEVEN ships moored in Santorini and Mykonos on the day of our arrival in those ports. That's an onslaught of 20,000 people on those two small island! That crush of that much humanity just has to be too impactful on the hardscape, landscape, and locals.

Tips for cruising popular destinations:

1. Look for cruises with late departures or double night stays in places like Venice that are overrun during the day.

2. Check port schedules for the places you love most and chose cruises that will have few ships moored on departure days.

3. Tender early and tender late, which usually means exploring on your own or skipping the cruise line's excursions (which tend to be more expensive, anyway). Consider going back to the ship for a siesta and lunch when the crowds are at their max. D

4. If you possibly can, see the popular attractions at night. It's not just that the crowds are lighter; the ambiance is simply lovelier.
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Re: Is Tourism Killing Venice?

Duplicate post. Venice doesn't need to hear from me twice.
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Re: Is Tourism Killing Venice?

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
But is that what is actually happening Ted?
Surely they eat something during the day ?
And take a drink or two as well ??
But l see your point !!

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Hi DM!

A trick, or two, quite often used on a cruise:-

1) Enjoy a big breakfast (not so big that you'll be looking for a bog when you get ashore)

2) Buy only light snacks, and drinks, when ashore - having looked at the prices outside before you go in)

3) Dinner & a show will, likely, be free back on board, this will fill up all the hours from 5 pm until bedtime

4) Have a look at the organised tours, from the ship!

5) Go ashore at peak times and you might have an experience similar to leaving a football ground at full time

6) Don't lean against the leaning Tower!
 
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