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26-02-2021, 08:10 PM
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Hi

Donkeyman, please keep posting and take no notice of insults.

I read all your posts, I do not agree with all of them, but I learn from you.

You are the voice of the people and that is what we need.

I am an Expert.

Definition of an Expert.

Ex is a has been and spurt is a drip under pressure.
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26-02-2021, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Zaphod ->

One of the very first entries: "BSA Tools - British manufacturing of Machine Tools & Lathes"



ME?
No, I spread the word not make the words up.
"UK remains in top ten manufacturing nations at ninth place"
https://www.makeuk.org/insights/publ...-facts-2019-20

It gets better if you could be bothered to take your blinkers off and look.
"Sage: Britain to become world’s 5th largest manufacturer by 2021"

https://www.manufacturingglobal.com/...ufacturer-2021

Is there really any point in my telling you what we make when you steadfastly refuse to accept that can make anything?
Go look for yourself.
Again: I'm not saying that the UK is perfect or that there's not room for improvement, but your negativity and denial here just displays your ignorance as to the facts.


Here's a list of the UK's top exports in 2020 - a year of global upset, remember.
Look at #1: "Machinery including computers: US$60.4 billion (15% of total exports).


http://www.worldstopexports.com/unit...s-top-exports/


ETA
Oh & BTW re: power stations you might like to improve your knowledge there too by looking into Rolls Royce's plans for SMR's and the 16 mini plants already planned for the UK, with production on target to begin within ten years.
Another fantastic British innovation!
You have answered none of my questions Zaphod, just repeated what
you had allready said ?
BSA, Previously a small arms manufacturer and motor cycle
producer based in Birmingham. Now involved in toolmaking and the
sale of machine tools, all of which appear to be of eastern
manufacture, as there are no signs of any trade marks set into the
main castings as was the custom with British machinery, just a few
stickers stuck on??
You will find that common practice now in UK .!
The few remaining british manufacturers have moved their facilities
to Taiwan and India, whilst keeping offices in UK ??
On the RR small reactor power plants, as you say, only plans so far?
And why do you think they are only SMALL reactors ??
Could it be because we can no longer produce the steel in the
quantities required do you think ??
On the satellite technology, very important l think, but we used to
have the technology ourselves to launch them as well, But it seems
that the EU has sneaked that away from us as well as our fish??
Computers l know many are imported here from the far East and it
is not beyond the bounds of possibility that we re export them
elsewhere ? However l will endeavour to establish if any are actually
manufactured here in the meantime ?

Donkeyman! 🤗🤗

PS, who is Sage, and what do they make??
Not toilet rolls l hope?
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26-02-2021, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by swimfeeders ->
Hi

Donkeyman, please keep posting and take no notice of insults.

I read all your posts, I do not agree with all of them, but I learn from you.

You are the voice of the people and that is what we need.

I am an Expert.

Definition of an Expert.
Ex is a has been and spurt is a drip under pressure.
Thanks for the encouragement Swimmy!!
As regards the insults, l am too thick to know they are insults?
I like your definition of expert,and l think it describes someone we
both know perfectly !!

Donkeyman! 👍👍
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27-02-2021, 11:28 AM
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/14...uel-macron-spt

Philippe Olivier hinted there could be a simple solution to this: bilateral agreements between individual countries.

Mr Olivier, who also serves as special advisor to National Rally party leader Marine Le Pen, complained about the Brexit deal not protecting the interests of French fishermen and argued France and Britain should have struck a bilateral agreement instead.

He said: "Germany totally dominates the EU and it really doesn't care about the problems of fisheries...
The EU is dominated by Germany. That was always the plan.
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27-02-2021, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinderella ->
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/14...uel-macron-spt






The EU is dominated by Germany. That was always the plan.
The fourth Reich cinders??
They still need the Ukraine though?

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27-02-2021, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread ->
People care about both people voted for taking back control and sovereignty not 70% and a border down the Irish Sea.

I think that's about 6 times now I've answered you.

Then this must be the sixth time I have had to tell you that no, you have not.
Again, you saying you have answered is not the same as you actually providing an adequate answer.

You can wriggle and squirm and obfuscate all you want, it's fine by me if you want to carry on making yourself look silly.
And you are.

How anybody can reach the age which this forum caters to and remain so naive and ignorant as to not understand the basic rules of life is amazing to behold.
I would like to live in a subsidised house with subsidised bills, subsidised food and subsidised transport and holidays - but life isn't like that.
Neither is Brexit.

You're a hypocrite, wanting to see fishermen subsidised ad infinitum yet yourself aiding in the loss of British business and tax receipts by trying to buy abroad to save a few quid!

Do not assume to know what Britons want when voting and polling both suggest you to be wrong.
Instead answer the question:
What would you rather: people care about fishing or that as now they care about the things I have shown you - and how would you reconcile the differences and persuade the country that what they want doesn't matter?


Stop dodging and avoiding and accept reality, then answer the question.
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27-02-2021, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
You have answered none of my questions Zaphod, just repeated what
you had allready said ?
BSA, Previously a small arms manufacturer and motor cycle
producer based in Birmingham. Now involved in toolmaking and the
sale of machine tools, all of which appear to be of eastern
manufacture, as there are no signs of any trade marks set into the
main castings as was the custom with British machinery, just a few
stickers stuck on??
You will find that common practice now in UK .!
The few remaining british manufacturers have moved their facilities
to Taiwan and India, whilst keeping offices in UK ??
On the RR small reactor power plants, as you say, only plans so far?
And why do you think they are only SMALL reactors ??
Could it be because we can no longer produce the steel in the
quantities required do you think ??
On the satellite technology, very important l think, but we used to
have the technology ourselves to launch them as well, But it seems
that the EU has sneaked that away from us as well as our fish??
Computers l know many are imported here from the far East and it
is not beyond the bounds of possibility that we re export them
elsewhere ? However l will endeavour to establish if any are actually
manufactured here in the meantime ?

Donkeyman! 🤗🤗

PS, who is Sage, and what do they make??
Not toilet rolls l hope?

Further to the above Zaphod, the only information on SAGE I could
find was that they are international, and are mainly involved in
accountancy software??
Could find no trace of an actual product??
Perhaps you should research your links a little more ??

Donkeyman! 🤗🤗🤗
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27-02-2021, 12:51 PM
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Re: Misled Over Brexit ? Certainly Looks That way !

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
You have answered none of my questions Zaphod, just repeated what
you had allready said ?
BSA, Previously a small arms manufacturer and motor cycle
producer based in Birmingham. Now involved in toolmaking and the
sale of machine tools, all of which appear to be of eastern
manufacture, as there are no signs of any trade marks set into the
main castings as was the custom with British machinery, just a few
stickers stuck on??
You will find that common practice now in UK .!
The few remaining british manufacturers have moved their facilities
to Taiwan and India, whilst keeping offices in UK ??
On the RR small reactor power plants, as you say, only plans so far?
And why do you think they are only SMALL reactors ??
Could it be because we can no longer produce the steel in the
quantities required do you think ??
On the satellite technology, very important l think, but we used to
have the technology ourselves to launch them as well, But it seems
that the EU has sneaked that away from us as well as our fish??
Computers l know many are imported here from the far East and it
is not beyond the bounds of possibility that we re export them
elsewhere ? However l will endeavour to establish if any are actually
manufactured here in the meantime ?

Donkeyman! 🤗🤗

PS, who is Sage, and what do they make??
Not toilet rolls l hope?

If we don't make anything you might like to say how come we are set to be the world's 5th largest manufacturer?
And that is according to a global industry body, not from me.





Do your own homework and find out who SAGE are; you might learn something since you seem determined to ignore what I show you.
I have shown you BSA saying they manufacture in the UK, but you - a faceless forum bod - think that we should believe you instead?
When you state that you make things as BSA do then the law of this country says you must actually do so.
Regardless, if you can press the keys to type on this forum I'm sure you can manage to find out who SAGE are.
I'm not hopeful mind if you refuse to see that RR's SMR's are in pre-production or wonder what powers a nuclear sub for example.
Or that the UK already has a couple of launch sites.


Here are a few more sources that might help you to see just how misguided your POV is:

https://www.madeherenow.com/news/pos...g-league-table

https://zenoot.com/british-manufactu...obal-rankings/

https://eandt.theiet.org/content/art...-manufacturer/

https://www.eastmidlandsbusinesslink...facturer-2021/
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27-02-2021, 12:59 PM
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Re: Misled Over Brexit ? Certainly Looks That way !

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
Further to the above Zaphod, the only information on SAGE I could
find was that they are international, and are mainly involved in
accountancy software??
Could find no trace of an actual product??
Perhaps you should research your links a little more ??

Donkeyman! 🤗🤗🤗
No, you do your own research.
I am not going to educate you any further when you constantly ignore what I post.
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27-02-2021, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinderella ->
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/14...uel-macron-spt

The EU is dominated by Germany. That was always the plan.
The way Barmier, Micron and the other Frogs keep sounding off, you'd think it was France who dominates the EU!
 
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