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11-05-2021, 07:16 PM
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No french restrictions on free movement for refugees

France should suspend all immigration from outside the EU for up to five years and push the bloc to toughen its external borders, Michel Barnier has said.

"I think we have to take the time for three or five years to suspend immigration,” he told public broadcaster France 2.
Mr Barnier said any suspension should exclude students and refugees, “who we need to treat with humanity and care”.


Immigration from outside the EU is a national competence for member states, and a suspension would be within the gift of the French government, although toughening the EU’s external Schengen border would require the cooperation of other EU member states.

Barnier speaks for France only, concerning borders on the mediterranean and the channel. He called for a discussion with other EU member states about making the bloc’s external border “more rigorous”.
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11-05-2021, 07:56 PM
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Re: No french restrictions on free movement for refugees

Originally Posted by Solasch ->
France should suspend all immigration from outside the EU for up to five years and push the bloc to toughen its external borders, Michel Barnier has said.

"I think we have to take the time for three or five years to suspend immigration,” he told public broadcaster France 2.
Mr Barnier said any suspension should exclude students and refugees, “who we need to treat with humanity and care”.


Immigration from outside the EU is a national competence for member states, and a suspension would be within the gift of the French government, although toughening the EU’s external Schengen border would require the cooperation of other EU member states.

Barnier speaks for France only, concerning borders on the mediterranean and the channel. He called for a discussion with other EU member states about making the bloc’s external border “more rigorous”.
Election is coming up in France and Barnier targets Le Pen voters on his way to presidency isn't it?
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11-05-2021, 08:23 PM
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Re: No french restrictions on free movement for refugees

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Election is coming up in France and Barnier targets Le Pen voters on his way to presidency isn't it?
Barnier not only managed to achieve a good deal, he succeeded in keeping the european union together. He kept the phocus of EU leaders on standing together, the outward solidarity struck the UK leaders in the face. Boris tried several times to go over barnier's head, and every time the collective faith in barnier slapped down these attempts. With merkel gone, the EU, europe, needs an experienced leader to steer the ship. Barnier fits that bill.
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11-05-2021, 08:29 PM
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Re: No french restrictions on free movement for refugees

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Barnier not only managed to achieve a good deal, he succeeded in keeping the european union together. He kept the phocus of EU leaders on standing together, the outward solidarity struck the UK leaders in the face. Boris tried several times to go over barnier's head, and every time the collective faith in barnier slapped down these attempts. With merkel gone, the EU, europe, needs an experienced leader to steer the ship. Barnier fits that bill.
Yes yes, his achievments must not be under-estimated. He was super sovereign during the negotiations and afterwards. Pretty often posters in this forum claimed that he would be sidelined very soon.
But he wasn't.

However which is Barniers aim in proposing the immigration idea?
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Re: No french restrictions on free movement for refugees

Originally Posted by 7779311 ->
Yes yes, his achievments must not be under-estimated. He was super sovereign during the negotiations and afterwards. Pretty often posters in this forum claimed that he would be sidelined very soon.
But he wasn't.

However which is Barniers aim in proposing the immigration idea?
I know of two similar examples.
Geert wilders and his party were the first to put on the political agenda the second generation moroccans. Children (sons) of morrocans (invited to netherlands to do jobs locals thought below their standing. Later their wives came over) who adopted the ways of their fathers toward (western) girls.
Wilders asked at a meeting of his party: do you want more moroccans in holland or less?
This party, on the right became very popular, and vote winning. The conservative party (rutte's party) was overtaken on the right, and lost many votes to geert.
To regain these votes, the conservatives had to adopt wilders' ideas as its own.

Nigel farage was getting very popular on brexit, costing the conservatives many votes. To regain these votes the conservatives had to adopt nigel's stance on brexit.

Marie le pen became popular on immigration costing...
Barnier, to attract these votes has to adopt...
 

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