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19-07-2021, 05:27 PM
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Personally, I wouldn't set foot in Londonistan and certainly would never drive there for obvious reasons.

Having said that, Marge is talking about going to Kew Gardens for her 60th birthday, I may be obliged to go (although not drive of course).

It occurs to me that if enough people in Londonistan either object to the new rules or even can't afford the charges, there would be a lot of Londoners giving up their cars and, consequently, their road tax.
I wonder if Khan't has considered how to make up the shortfall. He's probably not bothered as that income, I think, goes straight to the government.

It may also result in people moving out of the area, though I'm not sure how many people would want to pay the ridiculously high prices to buy their houses.
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19-07-2021, 10:28 PM
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Strangely, I too have received a letter from Transport for London, stating that my car (should I be stupid enough to venture anywhere near that cesspit) does not meet the ULEZ (Ultra Low Emission Zone) standards.

Then there's the usual ramblings about air pollution in the capital and to cap it off, TfL gave the DVLA my registration number (don't know where they got that from), and it was the DVLA who send out the letters.

What became of the Data Protection Act?
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20-07-2021, 07:42 AM
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I really enjoyed driving in the UK. Cant remember much about London apart from it wasnt as bad as Sydney..
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20-07-2021, 08:50 AM
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Re: Driving into London? Think twice before doing so

Originally Posted by JBR ->
Personally, I wouldn't set foot in Londonistan and certainly would never drive there for obvious reasons.

Having said that, Marge is talking about going to Kew Gardens for her 60th birthday, I may be obliged to go (although not drive of course).

It occurs to me that if enough people in Londonistan either object to the new rules or even can't afford the charges, there would be a lot of Londoners giving up their cars and, consequently, their road tax.
I wonder if Khan't has considered how to make up the shortfall. He's probably not bothered as that income, I think, goes straight to the government.

It may also result in people moving out of the area, though I'm not sure how many people would want to pay the ridiculously high prices to buy their houses.
There's a "100% discount" for residents, but for how long I don't know.
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20-07-2021, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by d00d ->
There's a "100% discount" for residents, but for how long I don't know.
Oh, so if you live there - and vote for the next mayor - you are not charged!

Just to keep visitors out, then?
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20-07-2021, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by d00d ->
There's a "100% discount" for residents, but for how long I don't know.
Living in central London is probably fine without owning a car, plenty of transport to everywhere plus of course nowhere to park anyway or you can but at an extortionate cost. It's possible even to walk most places, if you know London.

Now that the Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) area has expanded so much, right to the outer suburbs, easy transport may not be the case. Have a look at the map of this area on my original post, it's quite some large area compared to what it once was.

All this is in aid of the drive (excuse pun) towards electric vehicles. Next will come the increases in taxes both on petrol and diesel fuels and on the vehicles themselves that use those fuels. Look at the increases in Vehicle Excise Duty some years' ago on larger-engined cars (gas-guzzlers) to get them off the roads or pay a small fortune in tax if you wish to drive one of those vehicles.

Soon, and in not so many years either I believe, will come the almost 'compulsory' electric vehicles, everything else will have been priced off the roads.
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20-07-2021, 11:26 AM
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Re: Driving into London? Think twice before doing so

Did you see this page:

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ult...on-this-page-0

Minimum emission standards
Petrol: Euro 4
Diesel: Euro 6

The ULEZ is enforced based on the declared emissions of the vehicle rather than the age. However:

Petrol cars that meet the ULEZ standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA after 2005, although cars that meet the standards have been available since 2001
Diesel cars that meet the standards are generally those first registered with the DVLA after September 2015
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20-07-2021, 11:55 AM
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Re: Driving into London? Think twice before doing so

Originally Posted by Baz46 ->
Living in central London is probably fine without owning a car, plenty of transport to everywhere plus of course nowhere to park anyway or you can but at an extortionate cost. It's possible even to walk most places, if you know London.

Now that the Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) area has expanded so much, right to the outer suburbs, easy transport may not be the case. Have a look at the map of this area on my original post, it's quite some large area compared to what it once was.

All this is in aid of the drive (excuse pun) towards electric vehicles. Next will come the increases in taxes both on petrol and diesel fuels and on the vehicles themselves that use those fuels. Look at the increases in Vehicle Excise Duty some years' ago on larger-engined cars (gas-guzzlers) to get them off the roads or pay a small fortune in tax if you wish to drive one of those vehicles.

Soon, and in not so many years either I believe, will come the almost 'compulsory' electric vehicles, everything else will have been priced off the roads.
Interestingly, we still see 'VIP's still being driven around in large 'gas-guzzlers'.
Why?
Well, I suppose because they can...
and after all, WE are paying for them through our taxes.
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20-07-2021, 04:28 PM
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https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/mot...ertain%20times.
I think there are lot of more areas introducing new rules on this,,,Chilles was saying about Bath a while back...
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Bath has introduced a clear air zone link for anyone interested

https://beta.bathnes.gov.uk/check-yo...hicle%20online
 
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