08-08-2019, 04:12 PM
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Re: Brexit doom v Preject fear
Is it any wonder Leave voters, three years on, shrug their shoulders when they continue to hear Remainers wail about the economy. Ask any Leaver (you know, the ones you are so fond of saying “didn’t know what they were voting for.) I can guarantee most voted because of their concern over sovereignty and immigration. We voted to end freedom of movement and rule-taking from Brussels.Granted that wasn’t on the ballot paper, but it was what most of us Leave voters prioritised.
Remain voters chose the ruined economy for Britain as their reason for staying. That didn’t happen, did it?
Project Fear lost all credibility with Leavers after it predicted the DIY recession, as we were so seriously informed at the time by David Cameron. Again, it didn’t happen! So when Remainers now keep banging on about the economic damage if we vote no-deal, while hardly ever mentioning sovereignty and immigration, that says it all for Leave voters.
All the fearmongering once again about our ruinous economy is just a repetitive soundbite for the Project Fear camp.
Yes, the economy is important, but even more so, is sovereignty and ending Freedom of movement. Leavers were willing to take that chance if it meant freedom to rule ourselves again and dictate who is allowed into our country, while Remainers continue to gnash their teeth and continue with the same old cracked record economy excuse.
And....before you come out with the inevitable... we know full well that there is going to be a hurting period, but we are prepared to suffer that if it means escaping your dictatorial EU and it's insane plans for the future.
Leavers have not changed their minds.
WE WANT NONE OF IT!.
17.4 Million voted for Brexit. We must have it. If that means imposing it on our unwilling children and grandchildren, then so be it. All they can see is their freedom to travel jeopardised, whilst we older and wiser can see the true picture of the future if we don’t get out - NOW.
The people made their choice and Parliament should do its bidding, as every single Party promised.
08-08-2019, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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Is it any wonder Leave voters, three years on, shrug their shoulders when they continue to hear Remainers wail about the economy. Ask any Leaver (you know, the ones you are so fond of saying “didn’t know what they were voting for.) I can guarantee most voted because of their concern over sovereignty and immigration. We voted to end freedom of movement and rule-taking from Brussels. Granted that wasn’t on the ballot paper, but it was what most of us Leave voters prioritised.
Remain voters chose the ruined economy for Britain as their reason for staying. That didn’t happen, did it?
Project Fear lost all credibility with Leavers after it predicted the DIY recession, as we were so seriously informed at the time by David Cameron. Again, it didn’t happen! So when Remainers now keep banging on about the economic damage if we vote no-deal, while hardly ever mentioning sovereignty and immigration, that says it all for Leave voters.
All the fearmongering once again about our ruinous economy is just a repetitive soundbite for the Project Fear camp.
Yes, the economy is important, but even more so, is sovereignty and ending Freedom of movement. Leavers were willing to take that chance if it meant freedom to rule ourselves again and dictate who is allowed into our country, while Remainers continue to gnash their teeth and continue with the same old cracked record economy excuse.
And....before you come out with the inevitable... we know full well that there is going to be a hurting period, but we are prepared to suffer that if it means escaping your dictatorial EU and it's insane plans for the future.
Leavers have not changed their minds.
WE WANT NONE OF IT!.
17.4 Million voted for Brexit. We must have it. If that means imposing it on our unwilling children and grandchildren, then so be it. All they can see is their freedom to travel jeopardised, whilst we older and wiser can see the true picture of the future if we don’t get out - NOW.
The people made their choice and Parliament should do its bidding, as every single Party promised.
Germanys economy is taking a beating at the moment, Italy's coalition is about to collapse and France is becoming another functioning country destroyed by socialism.
Don't worry about Brexit, SG -- its remaining that we should be worrying about.
08-08-2019, 04:40 PM
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So true Bread. I'm sure Leavers have their own Project Fear, the fear that we will be corralled into remaining in that bearpit. The scary thing is that our own self-serving politicians working alongside the EU, have chosen to alienate 17.4 million people in this country. That is really bad, and regardless of the outcome, will never be forgiven. If we are forced to stay in, I dread to think what comes next.
08-08-2019, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Solly, l have requested at least btwice, yourself, Purwell, andI think Itsme to tell us what the benefits are of remaining
in the eu, l am still waiting for an answer! You all have
plenty of reasons for not leaving, but have no idea what the
benefits are that should persuade us to remain
I await your replies with great anticipation??
Regards Donkeyman!
08-08-2019, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Donkeyman
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Solly, l have requested at least btwice, yourself, Purwell, andI think Itsme to tell us what the benefits are of remaining
in the eu, l am still waiting for an answer! You all have
plenty of reasons for not leaving, but have no idea what the
benefits are that should persuade us to remain
I await your replies with great anticipation??
Regards Donkeyman!
Take your pick from 98 benefits, oh! and the reasons for staying happen to be the same. Isn't that a coincidence?????
https://smallbusinessprices.co.uk/remain-eu/
08-08-2019, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shropshiregirl
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yet I'm still waiting to read the reasons for your slavish devotion to the EU. I often read others asking you the same but we never seem to receive a response. just more insults from you and your ilk, the true mark of a losing argument.
Our country may be a net contributor, but our people benefit hugely. The same goes for britain, also a net contributor as brexiters constantly tell us (talking about a broken reciird!). By leaving the EU you withhold that benefit to each and every person in the UK. That is the price you make them pay for your illusion of sovereignty. Therefore I call brexiters stupid.
08-08-2019, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch
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That's simple. If there is one country that benefits from the internal European market, it is the Netherlands. It is one of the largest investors in many Eastern European countries. In 2008, the Central Planning Bureau calculated that Dutch people earn 1,500 to 2,000 euros per year, per person, from EU trade. This is not reflected in the European budget, but is a fundamental part of the cost-benefit analysis.Our country may be a net contributor, but our people benefit hugely. The same goes for britain, also a net contributor as brexiters constantly tell us (talking about a broken reciird!). By leaving the EU you withhold that benefit to each and every person in the UK. That is the price you make them pay for your illusion of sovereignty. Therefore I call brexiters stupid.
There are winners and losers .
In the UK there are not enough winners as many people and businesses benefit much more than others.
Anyway, that isn't the whole story.
There is the political and social cost of EU membership and many in the UK believe they suffer a negative deficit in those areas that money just can't buy.
08-08-2019, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JBR
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Rather like the Fish Woman!
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