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Originally Posted by JBR ->
Me too.

I do believe that Nigel and Boris could work well together to ensure Brexit.

Moreover, they could work together afterwards too if only Boris could bring Nigel on board. He has skills which Boris would find useful including, in my opinion, his public speaking abilities and his direct experiences of working in the EU Parliament.
Agree JB, would be a good move by Bojo.
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12-08-2019, 07:53 PM
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@Solly.

With all due respect, has it still not dawned on you that you're not changing anyone's mind?

Pi$$ing in the wind?
That dawned on me long time ago and I don't have a problem with that. But I always think that humans differ from other animals by their way of learning. Many species of animals can learn from their previous experiences. But humans have the ability to apply what they learned in one situation to another. With increasing knowledge we needed to specialize. Humanity as a whole benefitted from that development.
It requires to abide by the superior knowledge of a specialist.

However, in some fields we are all specialists. The weather, football, etc. Brexit is a unique situation where only experts are able to predict with limited certainty what will be future effects. All these experts are gathered on this forum it seems.
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12-08-2019, 07:58 PM
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Agree JB, would be a good move by Bojo.
It would require cooperation, harmony and understanding. Like a marriage. Both have shown that keeping a marriage is not their strong suit.
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12-08-2019, 08:05 PM
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Hi

This is what you misunderstand.

Barnier negotiated the Withdrawal Agreement on behalf of the EU.

It then had to be approved by the EU Council of Ministers before it was officially ratified by the EU.

It was.

Theresa May negotiated the Withdrawal Agreement on behalf of the UK.

It then had to be approved by the UK Parliament before it was officially ratified by the UK.

It was not approved, it was turned down 3 times.

It was rejected, not ratified.

It therefore does not exist anymore.

It is not a matter of the UK ratting on the agreement, the fact is we rejected it.

To suggest that we have been dishonest is just plain wrong.

Thanks for that Swimmy! You have made my mind much
clearer on that point! All May did was convey the document
to parliament for approval! What l still dont understand is
why did that POS reject it? It gave them all they presently
claim they now want? Are they just being contrary

Regards Donkeyman!
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12-08-2019, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
That dawned on me long time ago and I don't have a problem with that. But I always think that humans differ from other animals by their way of learning. Many species of animals can learn from their previous experiences. But humans have the ability to apply what they learned in one situation to another. With increasing knowledge we needed to specialize. Humanity as a whole benefitted from that development.
It requires to abide by the superior knowledge of a specialist.

However, in some fields we are all specialists. The weather, football, etc. Brexit is a unique situation where only experts are able to predict with limited certainty what will be future effects. All these experts are gathered on this forum it seems.
We'd probably do a better job than those currently in charge...
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12-08-2019, 08:34 PM
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We'd probably do a better job than those currently in charge...
Yes. First leave, and let the state of affairs determine how to act. Keep all possibilities open for the future.
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12-08-2019, 11:02 PM
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Yes. First leave, and let the state of affairs determine how to act. Keep all possibilities open for the future.
Scary , isn't it.............Most European nations don't have what it takes for this course of action.

Britain not only has what it takes, history proves that, most of us RELISH it!!

Bring it on Solly..........We'll show you the way then see you on the other side
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scary , isn't it.............most european nations don't have what it takes for this course of action.

Britain not only has what it takes, history proves that, most of us relish it!!

Bring it on solly..........we'll show you the way then see you on the other side
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13-08-2019, 05:39 AM
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Yes. First leave, and let the state of affairs determine how to act. Keep all possibilities open for the future.
So no plan then?
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Originally Posted by Moscow ->
Scary , isn't it.............Most European nations don't have what it takes for this course of action.

Britain not only has what it takes, history proves that, most of us RELISH it!!

Bring it on Solly..........We'll show you the way then see you on the other side
So, no plan and a reliance on our historical record. Pretty much sums up the case for Brexit
 
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