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28-08-2019, 04:30 PM
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All this is about the general public making false claims for benefits they are not entitled to but, so far no-one has mentioned the false claims put in by practically every MP, claims for things like light bulbs for their second or third homes, wallpaper, paper clips etc; aren,t they just as bad if not worse? They call it 'Expenses' but if Joe Blogs does it it,s 'cheating'.
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28-08-2019, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by big ben ->
All this is about the general public making false claims for benefits they are not entitled to but, so far no-one has mentioned the false claims put in by practically every MP, claims for things like light bulbs for their second or third homes, wallpaper, paper clips etc; aren,t they just as bad if not worse? They call it 'Expenses' but if Joe Blogs does it it,s 'cheating'.
Big ben, it doesn't matter who they are, if they flout the rules it is cheating! I think many MPs were criticized when they did and had to repay their ill gotten gains!
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28-08-2019, 05:47 PM
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There are also an awful lot of people who are not claiming all they are entitled to.
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28-08-2019, 05:52 PM
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There are also an awful lot of people who are not claiming all they are entitled to.
Well whose fault is that? If they are entitled they should make the effort to claim.
If they are so disabled that they cannot do it themselves Citizens Advice will help, if they have nobody to assist.
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28-08-2019, 06:14 PM
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There are also an awful lot of people who are not claiming all they are entitled to.

How do you know ?
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28-08-2019, 09:12 PM
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All that is needed is real jobs with realistic wages, something that has not existed for a long time.
Ever since we joined the EU....And we decided to go global.
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28-08-2019, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by big ben ->
All this is about the general public making false claims for benefits they are not entitled to but, so far no-one has mentioned the false claims put in by practically every MP, claims for things like light bulbs for their second or third homes, wallpaper, paper clips etc; aren,t they just as bad if not worse? They call it 'Expenses' but if Joe Blogs does it it,s 'cheating'.
What isn't being discussed here is the number of people who are not resourceful enough or don't have sufficient skills or intelligence to navigate what has become a very complicated system.

Just as ST has said, there are those who don't deserve the money but know how to answer the questions. There are just as many out there who desperately need the money but do not say the right things in the right way on a form or whatever they use these days.

These people are falling through the cracks. They are not scroungers but desperate. They have nothing and they are hungry. The food banks are doubtless helping some families remain together rather than send kids to social care.
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28-08-2019, 09:59 PM
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Ever since we joined the EU....And we decided to go global.
We decided to go global a few centuries ago.
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29-08-2019, 05:20 AM
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Ever since we joined the EU....And we decided to go global.
There was a deliberate policy by a certain government to destroy our manufacturing and engineering industry, remember?
Nothing to do with the EU, which incidentally did not exist at that time.
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29-08-2019, 10:52 AM
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There was a deliberate policy by a certain government to destroy our manufacturing and engineering industry, remember?
Nothing to do with the EU, which incidentally did not exist at that time.
I'll tell you what I remember Purwell, we joined the 'Common Market' in 1973..

The Wilson government again failed to take Britain into the EEC in 1967 but Georges Pompidou, who succeeded de Gaulle, finally relented and Britain joined in January 1973 under the premiership of Edward Heath. The 1974 Wilson government was unhappy with the terms of EEC membership and held a referendum in June 1975.

And in 1973, I remember us having a decent motor industry, a coal industry, a fishing industry, and a steel industry and lot's of small family run businesses and engineering factories. The EU put paid to the small engineering factories by imposing rules and regulations that small companies could not afford to implement.

The unions put paid to the big establishments with strikes and stopages. Wages became so high they were unprofitable and with EU help were transferred to foreign countries where some poor sap would do the work for a bowl of rice. The coal industry collapsed because it was cheaper to buy German coal than to dig our own. The working man together with the unions priced us out of the market. And with the demise of the large companies the small family ones, that manufactured parts for the big ones also went out of business.

Because people like you and me Purwell who want to earn as much as we can for the least hours we can, and because we would rather pay ten grand for a car made at the other side of the world instead of thirty grand for virtually the same vehicle made here. And because we want to eat strawberries and mangoes year round, and buy vegetables and other foods from EU countries and beyond instead of producing it here in the UK providing jobs for the locals.

We would prefer to fill our motorways with endless convoys of lorries, fill the oceans with massive container ships and tankers, allow all of our important companies - British Telecommunications, British Gas, Arriva busses and trains, British Airways, British Steel.....Etc etc to be run and controlled by foreign ownership, put most of our working population on benefits while we allow foreign labour to flood the country....While Branson, Dyson and others bask in the sun in their foreign factories and deposit their profits in offshore banks.

And why is everything good in this country imported from Germany and America?
Coca Cola, Macdonalds, KFC, B&Q, Subway, Mercedes, BMW etc, Aldi, Lidl.....the list is endless, why aren't we doing our own stuff.....? And you blame the Previous Governments Purwell, wake up and smell the coffee....You and me are responsible, and everybody else who allowed it to get this bad. So getting out of the EU is the first step. And bollox to global! Global can only work if everyone gets paid the same for the same job. Perhaps taking all of the ships boats and planes out of circulation we might just make a difference to the environment....
 
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