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09-09-2020, 06:00 PM
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Grenfell cess pit !!

With a preliminary judgement to publish soon the results of the first
phase of the enquiry should reveal what and who caused the
dreadful fire two years ago ??
From what l have read so far it seems that the inquiry has been
typified by evasiveness, blame dodging and buck passing by not only
the commercial interests but the authorities and the upper layers
of the fire services also ??
What is outstanding is the level of gnorance and utter lack of interest
displayed by company directors and senior managers of the
companies involved in refurbishing the tower block in understanding
regulations and the materials they were using?
This was/is their means of making a living ! and they couldnt be
bothered to learn anything about it ? Other than how cheap it is
and how much profit they coluld make !!
Whilst the main culprit has been identified as the material used,
there appears to be a lot of blame sharing to come yet??
I am not impressed by the calibre of the suspect witnessess?

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09-09-2020, 06:41 PM
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Re: Grenfell cess pit !!

Originally Posted by Donkeyman ->
With a preliminary judgement to publish soon the results of the first
phase of the enquiry should reveal what and who caused the
dreadful fire two years ago ??
From what l have read so far it seems that the inquiry has been
typified by evasiveness, blame dodging and buck passing by not only
the commercial interests but the authorities and the upper layers
of the fire services also ??
What is outstanding is the level of gnorance and utter lack of interest
displayed by company directors and senior managers of the
companies involved in refurbishing the tower block in understanding
regulations and the materials they were using?
This was/is their means of making a living ! and they couldnt be
bothered to learn anything about it ? Other than how cheap it is
and how much profit they coluld make !!
Whilst the main culprit has been identified as the material used,
there appears to be a lot of blame sharing to come yet??
I am not impressed by the calibre of the suspect witnessess?

Donkeyman! 👎😟😟👎
The main culprit was not the material, it was the inaproprapriate use of the material.
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09-09-2020, 06:52 PM
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Re: Grenfell cess pit !!

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
The main culprit was not the material, it was the inaproprapriate use of the material.
And the biggest grievance for those affected, is not how or why the fire started, but the lack of response from RBKC who couldn't be bothered to get out of bed to catch the falling bodies.
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09-09-2020, 07:26 PM
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Re: Grenfell cess pit !!

Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
The main culprit was not the material, it was the inaproprapriate use of the material.
Not my judgement Todgy !
Read the preliminary report when it comes out !!

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09-09-2020, 07:29 PM
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Re: Grenfell cess pit !!

Originally Posted by d00d ->
And the biggest grievance for those affected, is not how or why the fire started, but the lack of response from RBKC who couldn't be bothered to get out of bed to catch the falling bodies.
Yes you could say that dOOd ??

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09-09-2020, 08:28 PM
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Re: Grenfell cess pit !!

That tower should be pulled down .
It sounds like it was a terrible place even before the fire with passages blocked with rubbish etc .
High rise slum .
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09-09-2020, 08:42 PM
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Re: Grenfell cess pit !!

Originally Posted by Muddy ->
That tower should be pulled down .
It sounds like it was a terrible place even before the fire with passages blocked with rubbish etc .
High rise slum .
It wasn't a slum before it was populated.
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09-09-2020, 09:28 PM
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Re: Grenfell cess pit !!

Originally Posted by Muddy ->
That tower should be pulled down .
It sounds like it was a terrible place even before the fire with passages blocked with rubbish etc .
High rise slum .
No Muddy, it should be kept as it is but without the camoflage that
has been put around it and then used as monument to greed and
lack of empathy ??

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10-09-2020, 12:18 AM
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Re: Grenfell cess pit !!

Grenfell is a lovely town definitely not a cess pit. tThe writer Henry Lawson came from there.

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10-09-2020, 12:41 AM
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Re: Grenfell cess pit !!

Lovely to see that Bruce. Intercultural is fascinating to me. I can never understand the xenophobia which seems to be everywhere .
 
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