15-09-2020, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Percy Vere
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I did the sums after the vote, around 40 MPs (inc. 30 Tories) abstained for one reason or another (Treason May was in S. Korea!). Here's a link: https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-party-tensionThis link provides all the names of MPs voting for AND against the Bill.
All the drama in the media was just remainer blox !!
Donkeyman! 👎😟👎
15-09-2020, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Percy Vere
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I did the sums after the vote, around 40 MPs (inc. 30 Tories) abstained for one reason or another (Treason May was in S. Korea!). Here's a link: https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-party-tensionThis link provides all the names of MPs voting for AND against the Bill.
Of the opponents (one D. Abbott - the 'Commons Clown' - at the top of the list!) only one is a Conservative MP, and I think perhaps he'd better watch out at the next election!
The rest are all the typically anti-British political parties: Labour, LimpDem, SNP and other minor parties.
Of course, there are the Conservative abstentions, some would say 'cowards'!
Apart from celebrating our complete freedom from the EU at the end of the year, I shall be looking forward another four years to the results of the next general election.
By then, the country should be back on its feet and demonstrating the fruits of our success. More and more people will be aware of the wisdom of our leaving the EU and there are likely to be even more people proclaiming to have supported Brexit...
even if they didn't!
15-09-2020, 07:25 PM
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-latest-updateSee what happens when our negotiators stand firm. Nonsense to cut your nose off to spite your face.
Blocking EU firms from doing business with the City would "create major challenges for Union and Member States' authoritities in managing financial stability, in particular in times of financial stress", the document adds.
15-09-2020, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinderella
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-latest-updateSee what happens when our negotiators stand firm. Nonsense to cut your nose off to spite your face.
Major, May and everyone in between have been acting like wimps, frightened to upset our 'friends' on the other side of the Channel. Our 'friends' who have done everything they could over 40 years to take advantage of us.
The EU empire has failed, just like the last attempt 70 years ago.
15-09-2020, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JBR
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Interesting!More and more people will be aware of the wisdom of our leaving the EU and there are likely to be even more people proclaiming to have supported Brexit...
even if they didn't!
The weak wet wokes, have no shame.
16-09-2020, 03:32 AM
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HiA personal view.
I do not think that this is as simple as many think.
Boris altered the WA after slagging off the May Version.
He presented it as a huge victory and an oven ready Brexit.
He signed it on our behalf, a legal agreement with the eu.
He now realises it was a mistake.
He is now blaming the eu.
Nobody is going to trust us while he is PM.
17-09-2020, 08:42 PM
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There does not seem to be much trust between member states in the EU.https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...us-frugal-four
But in an interview with German newspaper Welt, he issued a huge warning to bigger countries in the EU who "do what they want more often than the small ones simply because they can get away with it".
When asked if there are ever times Germany and France have decided something and the other EU countries have agreed with them, Mr Blümel replied: "Different states have different interests and that's why there are changing alliances on EU issues."
17-09-2020, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinderella
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There does not seem to be much trust between member states in the EU.https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...us-frugal-four
"Austria's Finance Minister Gernot Blümel has warned against using the European Union coronavirus recovery plan as an entry into a debt union, and called for a quick return to solid finances once the pandemic is over.
But in an interview with German newspaper Welt, he issued a huge warning to bigger countries in the EU who "do what they want more often than the small ones simply because they can get away with it".
When asked if there are ever times Germany and France have decided something and the other EU countries have agreed with them, Mr Blümel replied: "Different states have different interests and that's why there are changing alliances on EU issues."
I have said before that Brexit will have wider consequences than our simply leaving the dictatorship.
We helped to save the whole of Europe from a severe threat 70 years ago. It looks like we might be about to save them again, this time from a Franco-German alliance!
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