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18-03-2019, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by galty ->
To the best of my knowledge no Western papers reported this at the time

But I think a lot of Muslims would say they brought it on them selves.


http://www.bpnews.net/52500/40-chris...cks-in-nigeria

Hmmm interesting. If we say the same about zionists in Israel, we're labelled anti-semitic !!!
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18-03-2019, 02:33 PM
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100? I wish!

Back in September 2017 an article in The Independent newspaper reported that in the UK THEN there were a known TWENTY FIVE THOUSAND "extremist" (I say devout) Muslims in the UK with THREE THOUSAND considered a direct threat to our country and FIVE HUNDRED under constant surveillance.

Now The Indy is hardly known as a Right Wing rabble rousing rag and the sources that it quotes are very legitimate, in addition similar reports have been made and continue to be made but with escalating numbers but I'm disinclined to quote from such sources as The Daily Wail or even worse the Sun!

100? In a pigs eye!

BTW - assume that the number of 800 devout and observant Muslims have to be monitored constantly then by my quick and dirty math that means that around 3000 plus members of the security forces are being tied up in this. 3000 is probably a very conservative figure and the number of 800 no doubt will have risen considerably by now.

Then there's the three thousand, a number that by now will have risen that are attracting attention of our security forces. How many security folk does that the up? That's a number I can only guess at but it'll be more than zero!

One thing is for certain sure, having to divert so many people and so much resources for this explains why our front line policing has had to be reduced and also why this has to be kept under wraps.

I mean, just imagine the howls of protest from The Usual Suspects if it became known just what a real and present threat we face let alone the HUGE costs it is to our country.

And that doesn't even consider the costs of the knock on costs from the remainder that make up the 2017 figure of TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND.
Why do YOU call them devote and not "extremists" as the official figures do?
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18-03-2019, 03:00 PM
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Re: Churchill NZ under lockdown!

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Hmmm interesting. If we say the same about zionists in Israel, we're labelled anti-semitic !!!
No, just very mistaken.
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Why do YOU call them devote and not "extremists" as the official figures do?
Simply because they are not extremists.

Referring to these people as extremists subliminally creates the impression that they are acting in some way outside the pail of Islam whereas they are not.

They are simply devout and observant Muslims.
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18-03-2019, 03:25 PM
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Why do YOU call them devote and not "extremists" as the official figures do?
Because he has read a lot without understanding it at all. We could all do that of course but it's much better to meet the people and find out about them as individuals IMO
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18-03-2019, 03:36 PM
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Because he has read a lot without understanding it at all. We could all do that of course but it's much better to meet the people and find out about them as individuals IMO
YEP that's the impression I get too Julie! well spotted - after all he does originate from the artful dodger theme heh?
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18-03-2019, 06:26 PM
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Re: Churchill NZ under lockdown!

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Because he has read a lot without understanding it at all. We could all do that of course but it's much better to meet the people and find out about them as individuals IMO
Not always useful as every individual is different .
Had I met Osama Bin Laden I may have found him agreeable .
He loved horses so we had something in common.
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18-03-2019, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
Simply because they are not extremists.

Referring to these people as extremists subliminally creates the impression that they are acting in some way outside the pail of Islam whereas they are not.

They are simply devout and observant Muslims.
Of course they are extremists. That's why the are on the extremist list.
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18-03-2019, 09:18 PM
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and the point YOU want to make instead of just posting?? - you are allowed to join in the discussion you know!
Would you like to reply to this point of view?



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18-03-2019, 10:31 PM
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Re: Churchill NZ under lockdown!

Originally Posted by galty ->
To the best of my knowledge no Western papers reported this at the time

But I think a lot of Muslims would say they brought it on them selves.


http://www.bpnews.net/52500/40-chris...cks-in-nigeria
I think that figure has gone up to 120 now, Galty.

There are on average 11 Christians from many different countries killed every day worldwide , from North Korea, Afghanistan, India to Somalia and Congo, for their faith, according to the latest..

900,000 over the last 10 years. Including Missionaries, Priests et al.

https://www.christianpost.com/news/o...rs-report.html
 
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