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16-01-2020, 01:42 PM
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EU Green Deal

You can read about it here from the Mises Institute courtesy of Zero Hedge.

What an utter car crash waiting to happen

https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/eur...t-bad-expected
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16-01-2020, 03:09 PM
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Sorry Bread I couldn't give a flying fig about the EUs 'green deal '
In just 15 days we should be free of them for good
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16-01-2020, 03:51 PM
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Sorry Bread I couldn't give a flying fig about the EUs 'green deal '
In just 15 days we should be free of them for good

Yes that's true, Meg and the way forward for the UK is to just ignore the EU and their stupid demands. We saw the first one yesterday with the UK going against EU legislation and offering a tax extension to FlyBe.

Good Good !
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Neither could I. I was reading just this morning that if only about 30% of all cars on the road in the UK were fully electric, our power supplies would crash if they all went on charge at the same time.
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16-01-2020, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread ->
You can read about it here from the Mises Institute courtesy of Zero Hedge.

What an utter car crash waiting to happen

Nigel, bless him, saw all this coming. As has been said we are soon to be freed from the madhouse.

https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/eur...t-bad-expected
Europe’s journalists are sticking with the Commission’s rhetoric by calling it a carbon border tax. For my part, I call it politicized European protectionism.

The Climate Cash Grab

Commission president von der Leyen has already proposed a financial package called the Just Transition Fund, which will support regions in their transition away from fossil fuels. However, the current climate targets already necessitate
€260 billion in additional annual investment, meaning that the updated targets will need even more funding. At the moment, the Just Transition Fund is rumored to be included in the EU budget for 2021–27 and is expected to raise €100 billion in investments. It remains a mystery who exactly will privately invest (at their own risk) in inefficient windmills and solar panels.

One thing is certain: a cash grab of this size can certainly attract the interests of central European nations that are currently hesitant to join in. That said, Germany and the Netherlands are favoring limited budgetary ambitions.

It is the ultimate mix of climate ideology and spending extravaganza. Since Brussels has a tendency to get the answer wrong every time, I am confident that we’ll get the worst of both.
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Originally Posted by Cinderella ->

Yep ... total disaster waiting to happen.
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16-01-2020, 06:06 PM
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Sorry Bread I couldn't give a flying fig about the EUs 'green deal '
In just 15 days we should be free of them for good
That's a major misunderstanding of the situation. Because the plan for transition which starts 1 february is that during the period the UK will continue to follow all EU rules, pay into the budget and abide by rulings of the EU’s Court of Justice, some have seen fit to describe this as membership in all but name.

This is incorrect in one major way: the UK will not have voting or representation rights during transition, barring some very limited areas where it necessarily must have an input
. The EU has always closely guarded membership as something that comes with privileges and so it is here: during transition, the UK will not be like a member on this most basic test.

Clearly, this is highly problematic as a democratic proposition. The UK will have all of the obligations and none of the voting rights.
So, should europarliament agree on a new law on climate change, the UK has to implement it, by law.
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16-01-2020, 07:03 PM
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No should be plain enough even for EU.
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16-01-2020, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Solasch ->
That's a major misunderstanding of the situation. Because the plan for transition which starts 1 february is that during the period the UK will continue to follow all EU rules, pay into the budget and abide by rulings of the EU’s Court of Justice, some have seen fit to describe this as membership in all but name.

This is incorrect in one major way: the UK will not have voting or representation rights during transition, barring some very limited areas where it necessarily must have an input
. The EU has always closely guarded membership as something that comes with privileges and so it is here: during transition, the UK will not be like a member on this most basic test.

Clearly, this is highly problematic as a democratic proposition. The UK will have all of the obligations and none of the voting rights.
So, should europarliament agree on a new law on climate change, the UK has to implement it, by law.
Hi

The reality of the situation is that our Government has put into law that the Transition Period ends this December and will not be extended.

If this is the case, then the EU can pass all the legislation it wants and we can ignore it as there is insufficient time for the EU to force us to,
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16-01-2020, 08:52 PM
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Hi

The reality of the situation is that our Government has put into law that the Transition Period ends this December and will not be extended.

If this is the case, then the EU can pass all the legislation it wants and we can ignore it as there is insufficient time for the EU to force us to,
You are talking about directives, which require EU countries to achieve a certain result, but leave them free to choose how to do so. EU countries must adopt measures to incorporate them into national law (transpose) in order to achieve the objectives set by the directive.

I was referring to regulations, those are legal acts that apply automatically and uniformly to all EU countries as soon as they enter into force, without needing to be transposed into national law. They are binding in their entirety on all EU countries. Any regulation entering into force before 31 december 2020 fully applies to the UK, beyond that date.

The Withdrawal Act just gotten through your parliament, will take a snapshot of EU law as it exists before you fully leave, converting it into UK domestic law.
 
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