Re: Sir Edward Heath

Julie I really admire your private and personal forgiveness, it's the way to go if you can possibly do that, I agree.

But are you seriously suggesting that in the case (for instance) of the children who were tortured and murdered and buried at Haut de la Garenne, we should forgive and forget their abusers and murderers on their behalf?

http://www.nkmr.org/en/articles/2472...childrens-home

Re: Sir Edward Heath

I never said that at all, I do think we need to spend some money helping the victims and I don't think this media led circus will in the end help them, I know people who relive the abuse every time they see these cases talked about, they deserve help which could be provided by taking some of the money being spent on these cases, the case seems to be from 1961 that has sparked this we need a point in time we say too late to complain or our legal system will become bogged down with cases from 50 years ago.

By all means look at who covered things up because if it to be believed a brothel keeper and police could be charged but cases of child abuse should only be brought against living targets not the dead who cannot defend themselves.

Re: Sir Edward Heath

Its never to late to complain Julie
Thankfully at last - the Saville case came to light and we have gone on from there - it 'needs' to be done
As for forgiveness, I get sick of hearing that from religious people - up to the individual isn't it - you 'can' in some cases put the hurt away in a box and get on with life - forgive .............. for me 'never'

Re: Sir Edward Heath

Perhaps though, the resources available would be better directed towards investigating current perpetrators who are still carrying out their vile exploitation of children, rather than chasing ghosts?

Re: Sir Edward Heath

Thank you, Tabby, hoping you're well ;o)

Re: Sir Edward Heath

Yes that is all I think we can do so long after the event.

Re: Sir Edward Heath

I forgave with NHS help long before I found any sort of religious faith. I do get fed up of religion being blamed so often for things. And yes it's up to the individual and with help many will find they can move on and stop being victims and take the power back from the abusers.

Re: Sir Edward Heath

I couldn't disagree more vehemently if I tried!

Forgiveness is marvellous in individual cases, but we have a duty to those children who were trafficked tortured murdered to reveal the names of the vile perpetrators.

And if in the investigations it is found that many of them were well known household names, international heroes, minor royalty...it makes not one jot of difference.

No more turning a blind eye, no more 'nothing we can do' , no more burying and covering up of heinous crimes.

Re: Sir Edward Heath

You think that will happen ? I can see the opposite with things being covered so deep it will never see the light of day.

Re: Sir Edward Heath

It's already happening Julie...the entire world is watching, I think it could be virtually impossible to close Pandora's box shut now it's been opened this much.

But when Call Me Dave has said, "do whatever it takes", you do wonder if he really really means going as far as outing the highest of the high.
And Heath isn't It!