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Originally Posted by Morticia ->
You are a pretty obnoxious disagreeable chap yourself who thinks he knows it all aren't you. Clearly you despise anyone disagreeing with your opinion for that is all it is .... your own opinion.
Ooh err, a proper old tantrum there!



Here we go again with more of the same old from you that you accuse me of, you hypocrite!

If you really are so incapable of debating the subject matter instead of trying to cause argument with your continual and personal venomous retorts you can expect and indeed you deserve my ridicule.



And next you admit to trolling:
Originally Posted by Morticia ->
Anything else was just for my own curiosity to see how far you could be 'wound up and set off running ' .. and you did not disappoint. Your debating style is rather the backroom lawyer type. As a rule, for that reason, you're best avoided and left to strut and pontificate in the enclosure of your own mind.

Go find somebody else to feed you but I will not succumb to your bullying tactics any more than Boris & Priti have done.



FYI Boris has set a precedent in not falling for a blatantly-obvious devious character assassination attempt by civil servants obviously in need of a good shake!
Any investigation should be by independent source and not another civil servant.
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Originally Posted by Omah ->
Well, Patel's on her way out, anyway - she can take her bullying CV to her next job ..... and upset another set of Civil Servants and breach another Ministerial Code .....
I will believe that when I see it - not when some media wag says it is so.
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22-11-2020, 02:07 PM
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Downing street tends to release such changes to the press a day or two before announcing them. This was in the Times one official Government mouthpiece.
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Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
They are proposing a freeze on public sector pay which includes key workers such as police and teachers. This is after freezing these salaries for years and then saying they would raise them. A u turn after saying key workers are oh so important. The only exemption will be doctors and nurses in frontline NHS services, but apparently not paramedics. So yes you would expect the opposition to make a deal of it.

Err no Annie.

They are asking for pay rises while the private sector suffers bankruptcy and layoffs.

Its disgusting and shameful

Do you think key workers only exist in the public sector ? Really annie ? A lot of those NHS doctors you hold in such high esteem also work in the private sector, that's why the government brought in IR35 in the public sector a few years ago.

Pay rises for the boys but business pays for everything
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Originally Posted by AnnieS ->
Downing street tends to release such changes to the press a day or two before announcing them. This was in the Times one official Government mouthpiece.
This does not say where it is from .......... it is pure supposition, of which we see far too much which is later proven incorrect.
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Bring back Amber Rudd.
Patel wants to bring back Capital Punishment .....
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Patel wants to bring back Capital Punishment .....
Others may kill and wound the innocent but these people must be cosseted and provided with every comfort except freedom at the victim's and the rest of society's expense.
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22-11-2020, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bread ->
Err no Annie.

They are asking for pay rises while the private sector suffers bankruptcy and layoffs.

Its disgusting and shameful
er yes in July Rishi Sunak announced pay rises for key workers including teachers and police. Are you saying that they are still getting that pay rise and they are asking for more? There was a fuss at the time because nurses were not included. There was also criticism that social workers were excluded. Previously their pay had been frozen for years. So my assumption is that he has gone back on his promise in July (except for frontline nhs medical staff although presumably that means rises for doctors and a continuation of the 2018 pay deal for nurses).



Originally Posted by Bread ->
Do you think key workers only exist in the public sector ? Really annie ? A lot of those NHS doctors you hold in such high esteem also work in the private sector, that's why the government brought in IR35 in the public sector a few years ago.

Pay rises for the boys
How would IR35 apply to doctors who are employed by the NHS?
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Originally Posted by Zaphod ->
This does not say where it is from .......... it is pure supposition, of which we see far too much which is later proven incorrect.
The Times doesn't usually get it wrong. They cite unidentified sources so it's a leak. We will see.
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Originally Posted by Omah ->
Patel wants to bring back Capital Punishment .....
Much as I'm personally opposed to it I do believe that is much required for the sake of OUR country.
 
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