Former Chief of the Defence Staff Lord Richards was being interviewed on the radio earlier sounding positive about Trump.
He suggested
....that people were too quick to poke fun at Trump before the election not realising he was a serious contender,
....that the world could be a safer place with Trump in charge (rather than it would have been with Clinton the 'hawk' )
....that as some of us have already posted, many of Trumps pronouncements were taken too literally.
....that NATO would not only be safe but may even be strengthened with Trump at the helm when the mantle of responsibility falls on his head.
....that having a good dialogue with Putin may bring a swifter resolution to the Syria problem

Junker is looking for an excuse (Trump pronouncements on NATO included) to promote a 'european army', not a good idea we need NATO and Trump may be the person to squash his ambition. History has shown we can't rely on Europe and we need a wider field for our protection.
I think we just have to wait and see what kind of leader Trump will make, I have never been a fan of his but he could surprise us all

Former Chief of the Defence Staff Lord Richards was being interviewed on the radio earlier sounding positive about Trump.
He suggested
....that people were too quick to poke fun at Trump before the election not realising he was a serious contender,
....that the world could be a safer place with Trump in charge (rather than it would have been with Clinton the 'hawk' )
....that as some of us have already posted, many of Trumps pronouncements were taken too literally.
....that NATO would not only be safe but may even be strengthened with Trump at the helm when the mantle of responsibility falls on his head.
....that having a good dialogue with Putin may bring a swifter resolution to the Syria problem

Junker is looking for an excuse (Trump pronouncements on NATO included) to promote a 'european army', not a good idea we need NATO and Trump may be the person to squash his ambition. History has shown we can't rely on Europe and we need a wider field for our protection.
I think we just have to wait and see what kind of leader Trump will make, I have never been a fan of his but he could surprise us all

That is one of the most worrying things about the EU's recent activities. I have always doubted the underlying reasons for creating a European Army (and presumably Navy and Air Force) under the sole control of the European Commission and, consequently, Merkel. I couldn't imagine the consequences if our own armed forces were part of that.

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Panic not, it ain't going to happen.

For one thing, the Polish were fantastic Allies of ours in WW2, loads of Polish Air Force Squadrons over here at that time.

They suffered horrendously at the hands of the Germans, and they don't forget.

There will be vetoes all over the place, the Visegrad Group are all for NATO, not an EU Army.

I spent some time talking with a friend in Florida last night who is reflecting the new "fashion" in mistreating the LGBT community and in general, minorities. Public harassment and actual attacks just as we saw and still see post Brexit.
It cannot be right, liberal or conservative, to target minority sections of a national community and call themselves "justified".

Further I am frankly astonished at how fast the rhetoric and promises of the last two years have been rescinded...Health care, NATO and other issues at now nothing like they were when Trump "enthused" the nation with them.
The President the voters thought they had is now morphing already into something...could actually be anything really.
I wonder whether his groupies will accept such about turns or express themselves more physically?

and finally his promise to keep all Muslims out was a nonsense...it is illegal in terms of discriminatory on the grounds of religion. I would have thought someone would have pointed that out??

I am always a little suspicious of posters who have never said a lot before , suddenly start being very vocal. Just saying.

If Trump is serious and gets it through Congress he may well reuce the US's role in NATO.
At the same time Russia is meddling in Montenegro with a long Adriatic
coastline bordering Europe.

I am far happier being in control of an army to protect borders than to rely on the USA...seemingly fickle, and subject to THEIR politics which we have no say in.

Why do you want o be independent in the first instance but under someone else's control in your defense?

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I really do not understand your logic.

The EU , Germany in particular, has been underfunding it's armed forces for years.

NATO has worked effectively for years, why change it?

Yes but they have elections midterm....if the Dems take over his hands will be tied as Obama were for his last 2 years.

Also there's a lot of Repugs who don't like Trump.