03-01-2016, 01:45 AM
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Re: Cesar Millan (split from Barbara Woodhouse thread )
Originally Posted by Muddy
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Caesar Milan - hes the man .He trains the owners not the dogs .
He also uses e collars
03-01-2016, 01:51 AM
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Re: Cesar Millan (split from Barbara Woodhouse thread )
Originally Posted by Meg
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Muddy I wouldn't let that TV entertainer anywhere near any dog of mine, I have seen what he does to dogs.He also uses e collars
He sure doesn't whisper to dogs, more like kicks them.
Ian Dunbar is my go-to for advice.
03-01-2016, 10:47 AM
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Re: Cesar Millan (split from Barbara Woodhouse thread )
Originally Posted by Muddy
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He is always on TV dealing with compromised dogs.He doesn't kick them he taps them with his foot .
I love the man
dogs love him too.
here is a site listing some of the opposition to Millan by various organizations who are against cruel methods of training. http://beyondcesarmillan.weebly.com/
Millan has been sued a number of times and the making of his so called 'training' series dropped.
In 2013 A panned tour of the UK was 'postponed' in other words cancelled because of widespread opposition to his training methods by canine professionals here. This was the message put out at the time on social media ...
All tickets will be refunded to ticket holders from the original point of purchase.
His remedy was to use the outdated method of 'rolling' the dog, pinning it to the ground with the use of force when it reacted to another dog opening it up to becoming fear aggressive because it would now associate the presence of dogs with pain,fear and a negative experience.
There were numerous videos of him forcing terrified dogs to comply with the use of choke chains, in one the dog passes out because its air supply is restricted, other dogs 'close down' their bodies freeze with fear making it impossible for them to learn anything but fear.
He also uses e collars now banned in Wales and many of us have been trying to get them banned here..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-30725965
Pain and fear should have no part in dog training
This is how to train a dog without the use of fear or pain...
https://www.dogstrust.org.uk/help-ad...aining-videos/
Or contact a member of the APDT ..
http://www.apdt.co.uk/
they use positive reinforcement methods to train dogs not pain and fear..
03-01-2016, 02:25 PM
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Re: Cesar Millan (split from Barbara Woodhouse thread )
Originally Posted by lovemyboys
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Call it what you will, in my opinion, it's no way to train any dog. He needs to 'listen' to the dogs, not 'tap' them!
I wonder how many of these dogs are now fear aggressive?
Dogs like this are dangerous .
A dog that has developed dangerous habits due to lack of proper training as a puppy needs different tactics .
Ceasar Milan has saved many dogs from being euthanised by retraining .
I love Ceasar Milan he really understands dogs .
03-01-2016, 03:05 PM
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Re: Cesar Millan (split from Barbara Woodhouse thread )
Fear aggression doesn't make a big dog attack a small one.It's doesn't make a dog attack a child .
Most people only have nice properly socialised dogs .
As we in the Uk are a nation of animal lovers.
This is not so in the rest of the world .
America in common with many countries has a tradition of very agrees ove breeds .
Bred for their aggressive qualities in filas and pitbulls
Unless trained as pups these are not dogs that will be rehabilitated by a clicker
IMO the uk has it to the right that some breeds are banned here.
Many people get a dog with no more idea how to train it than fly in the sky.
Dogs IMO should be licensed and the licence should come with a leaflet on basic training.
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